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I have a pretty good Idea of how it works out. Work it out anyway you choose.
We are in Hell right now (separated from God), God's presence is known. If we reject God's love (one and only Son)we...

Opps, I lost track of any such discussion days ago.
Too much animosity in this room.

What's love got to do with it?

The message of the gospel, which is clearly in the pages of Scripture, is not a story that says, “Because Jesus achieved this, therefore we are all automatically forgiven.”

It can be found in the parable of the Prodigal son (I doubt you'll want to hear it). I'll wait till your in a better frame of mind, I can see your busy.

The Judgement of God, is not God sorting...

Who said that?
That has never been my concern (question). I don't know anything about that.
Is there a need for Hell...This would be what's in question?

Many people have a relationship with God that is based on something you might not understand.
A necessity that most people don't want to Understand or Accept. 

If you really want me too-  You should first understand; "God’s wrath does not contradict His love.
Denial of God’s just punishment of sin will only ensure that one experiences it.

Would anybody...

Why are you trying to drag me into your little spat with JL. I'm staying out of it.

Ah, you've been to a Catholic School? Didn't mean anything other than I find most people with this sort of...

You really have to drop it down a notch or two, your not thinking strait.
What has gotten you so frazzled? I viewed a few scathing posts and I didn't look any further. I assumed you were referring...

No, it's more like I could not look at it anymore. You can't seem to let it go. So I glanced over a few fragments and I could only guess what you were yammering about. 
Huh? ya that was me.hmm, what...

In the same sense that Jesus, Disciples Didn't know what he was talking about.

I honestly tried, I could not figure out what you were going on about. I sensed a Hellish overtone from what I did...

Let us say there has been variants imposed into the Bible. If that is so, God will honor them. Remember, it was never God's intent for Israel to have a King. And if you look at history man has always...

It will bring life. It has so much more 'meaning. It can be nothing other that the work of God.
If it was at all the work of God, it would still remain the work of God. It's not a game of hide and...

We heard you the first time. You have stated in the past "The bible (in itself) has been corrupted." So be it, no biggie. Believe what you will. You should know that the Bible is the Word of God. If...

Either you believe in the Bible or you don't. Why would anybody pretend to believe in something that was created by man?
Well, yah know, God meant well by giving us this Book. But like always man...

True, myself included. I get it, your saying- the Bible can't be trusted.
Sake of argument: (spiritual life)
You say- God is the highest life- Man is the Center life- Bible is the lower life.
If...

Here you go Athos, I'll post the Topic once more.

This thread was posted under Christian religion.
You come up with: "you can't win in this life, so you'll win in the next"is life"

Is that "what it means to believe God"?


Leads me to...

Ah, right out of the scriptures. Pretty much an exact quote...now your getting it.

What is it you think you win "in this life"? There are no winners, all is lost. Seek the kingdom of God and get...

I think is what you meant to say; The promises in the Bible are fulfilled as we live Gods Word (a Godly life, the life of Jesus)

Your Welcome ;-)

That's all too easy.
GOD says it, I believe it.


Do you mean approaching it with a childlike faith...If you can't do it in faith - if you can't do it in confidence - don't do it!
...

You are trying to make a case rather than someone seeking to establish the truth- yes?


In your mind this is 100% true...no doubt what so ever?  

As a believer- faith in what?
Or does your faith just appear out of osmosis?
___________________________________________________________disregard____________________________________________________...

What I have been trying to say; By adhering to said statement you might be discrediting your own faith.



You have denounced (even if for argument sake only)?

Faith in the Scriptures is all the proof I need.
Faith Requires Focus. What are your eyes focused on?
Eliminate the Bible, there is no Jesus.


I do, but then I post and begin to edit, then...

I publish then edit. Here is what I have so far.

According to you, a Christian (you) would have too.
"To show the wrong approach." Involving the question of God when trying to PROVE God.
A...

'Our' faith is grounded in the fact of the resurrection, our faith has to be based on something true or our faith is in vain.



According to you, a Christian (you) would have too.
"To show the...

And here we go again.


Faith!
Faith is the substance

Faith is the proof...literal Proof!
God calls us to live instead by faith.

Noted.
 
Same here.

I fail to see the relevance.



Isn't this the basis for an atheist point of view???

Is this the statement in Question?

There is no truth in that statement?

Yet you expressed:

So I assumed you were owning it (truth in the eyes of an atheist),for the sake of your argument?...

Still editing (and two more hours). Hope I cleared up a few things.


I sometimes take little snippets of what I have read. Is that is OK?



So prophecy has no place in the Bible?

I really should. I Edit as I go. I spent the last two hours editing...even still.
I'll try to do better.



Hmm, is that only the ones you don't agree with?
And I thought I was doing better.

Still learning the Advanced features when editing.


Irrelevant.


But it was, Interjected by you if not Tal.

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Yet here we are.

That's what you Got out of all this?

Are you trying to take something away from the fact that God is 100% Man? Exact same Flesh as you and I???

My Statement was Directed at Tal. Which I perceived as an Atheist.

Context:
The criticism made by atheists that the existence of God cannot be demonstrated is no criticism at all; for a God whose...

I say, I say...Simmer down, just simmer down there.

Ah, Glad to see you my friend. I knew when I posted that, that it would open up a new can of worms.

Lets put it in its proper context.

God, is not in the world; the world is in him. The...

The Quotes Don't have to be from you.

I, in effect might be saying that the Bible is our focal point- You, (so it appears) are trying to separate Jesus from the Bible...because the Bible is not...

That's what you've been saying all along!



Look at post #35

What am I missing?





Correction: 'You' (Faith), don't have the original writings...apply Faith.

Jesus, declares that the Scriptures point to him.

By reading and reflecting the scripture, I can be a witness to Christ Jesus in my personal life- yes?



By accepting the Scriptures as our only authority in matters of faith and practice...

...

That is true. Feel free to pick up on any Scripture that moves you. Be careful when Lambasting the Word (Bible) of God.
I am Truly Happy you found your Calling.

Whoever does not carry his own...

I have always known the Bible was the literal word of God. When I was on this site a year ago, I read some posts, and it appeared to me that some (unbelievers) were refuting  the Bible. Declared,...

We need constantly to have our minds recalibrated by the Bible

The flesh (as in you and I) needs to die. Jesus takes these fleshly emotional, disturbed, vacillating followers of his and turns them...

We need constantly to have our minds recalibrated by the Bible if our emotions are not to lead us astray. Jesus takes these emotional, disturbed, vacillating followers of his and turns them to the...

You said God found you. God Found the Older Brother as well. God Came out to meet (God found) Both his Son's.
Yet we know which Son Sought after his Father.



I have  Four Different...

The Word is Jesus, Jesus is the Word (you said it). You can see Jesus throughout the Old Testament. "In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God.
Jesus is the New Testament!

The Old...

And what Word is that?


I think you might be in the backyard (field at your Fathers house) With the Older Brother. Still waiting for the father to find you. Your Father found you, why don't you...

Then what did you mean by this?

If Jesus is the Word, then how can you have one without the other (your earlier statement, Different thread, contradicted)?

Also: In a different thread, I...