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  1. Well, at least it now seems to be accepted as...

    Well, at least it now seems to be accepted as meaningful, even if being merely "unethical" is, it appears, OK.
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    Not for you. For you it's an avoidance thread. I...

    Not for you. For you it's an avoidance thread. I just don't like playing that game.
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    And again.

    And again.
  4. Show me a totally honest anyone. And if that...

    Show me a totally honest anyone.

    And if that can be referred to as "meaningless", then the word has itself become meaningless.
  5. So since Biden is guilty, then everyone must be...

    So since Biden is guilty, then everyone must be guilty? That seems like a philosophy of convenience.
  6. Yahoo.com is a "politico"??? On what planet?

    Yahoo.com is a "politico"??? On what planet?
  7. I thought you were keeping up with this. ...

    I thought you were keeping up with this.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/12/05/smoking-gun-reveals-fbi-meddled-in-election-warned-twitter-during-weekly-meeting-on-hunter-laptop-1314472/
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  8. If the American people would not have cared, then...

    If the American people would not have cared, then why do you suppose the story was buried? Would we have cared that a candidate for pres's son was engaged in illegal activity with a foreign...
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    Rather conveniently left out this likewise...

    Rather conveniently left out this likewise "relevant" portion. "Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil...
  10. Fair enough observation. The evidence has pointed...

    Fair enough observation. The evidence has pointed to Facebook, Twitter, and several big media news sites. The burying of the HB laptop story unquestionably (irrefutably) affected a close race in...
  11. I think for the anti-Trumpers, evidence never...

    I think for the anti-Trumpers, evidence never rises to the level of being irrefutable.
  12. I don't link sites I haven't read. It's hard...

    I don't link sites I haven't read.

    It's hard to reason with people who see everything through "I despise Trump" lenses. Any and all activities are acceptable so long as they assist in bringing...
  13. Strange how everything that favored Biden is...

    Strange how everything that favored Biden is somehow "meaningless".
  14. The analysis was not of the vote. The analysis...

    The analysis was not of the vote. The analysis was of the news coverage and the collusion by much of the news media to bury the Hunter Biden laptop story in order to push for Biden's election.
  15. A contention for which there is zero evidence. ...

    A contention for which there is zero evidence.

    Actually not, as I understand it, true. It has only shown that there was insufficient evidence for a court case to proceed. It certainly has not...
  16. It never ceases to fascinate me how liberals can...

    It never ceases to fascinate me how liberals can happily overlook the obvious truth of big tech collusion to push the election to Biden, but then have a fit over a statement by Trump, the meaning of...
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    "You say you've read it (the John 3 passage), but...

    "You say you've read it (the John 3 passage), but you have not accepted and loved and believed it. Do that first, and then we can talk more."

    Or you can choose to reject it, but you need to make...
  18. This was all said in response to the revelations...

    This was all said in response to the revelations of high tech collusion to get Biden elected as shown by the Twitter file releases.
  19. So far as I can find, this is the actual quote. ...

    So far as I can find, this is the actual quote.

    “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the...
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    "You say you've read it, but you have not...

    "You say you've read it, but you have not accepted and loved and believed it. Do that first, and then we can talk more."
  21. Kind of leaves us with a pretty narrow range of...

    Kind of leaves us with a pretty narrow range of choices. That's one thing I will say for Trump. He was not subservient, as far as I could tell, to anyone's agenda.
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    You say you've read it, but you have not accepted...

    You say you've read it, but you have not accepted and loved and believed it. Do that first, and then we can talk more.
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    I don't know if you know the Bible or not. I do...

    I don't know if you know the Bible or not. I do know it certainly seems you don't believe much of it.

    How to approach a sinner? Read the John 3 passage, for that is exactly what Jesus was doing....
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    And that's the whole problem. You don't want to...

    And that's the whole problem. You don't want to read the Bible and analyze your beliefs in light of what you read. I have no intention of doing it for you.
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    Read the John 3 passage.

    Read the John 3 passage.
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    I have read that about 80% of the colonials heard...

    I have read that about 80% of the colonials heard Whitefield in person.
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    Read the John passage. Learn.

    Read the John passage. Learn.
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    I said, "We don't catch anyone." You wrote, ""We"...

    I said, "We don't catch anyone." You wrote, ""We" (Christians?) "catch" sinners all the time..." And you call that a quote? You need a lesson on what a quote is. I think you need a good, long look in...
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    Then you should stop.

    Then you should stop.
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    We don't "catch" anyone. That's the Holy Spirit's...

    We don't "catch" anyone. That's the Holy Spirit's job, and us being honest with the truth is very helpful there.
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    Never said that. I understand that I could...

    Never said that.

    I understand that I could post a thousand passages, and the response would be cherry picking, I talked to Jesus when I was a child, just change the subject, and on it goes.

    I...
  32. It's what wrong with the repubs. It seems they...

    It's what wrong with the repubs. It seems they are just less extreme democrats.
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    Yes. Just ignore the John passage. Have it your...

    Yes. Just ignore the John passage. Have it your way.
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    Yes indeed. He loved us so much that He gave His...

    Yes indeed. He loved us so much that He gave His own life so that those who follow Him in faith would be delivered from God's judgment. If you accept the Bible, then that is a clear, plain truth. You...
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    Good morning, WG. I would just reply that you...

    Good morning, WG. I would just reply that you seem to be content with giving them half the message that Christ gave. Do you know more than Him?
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    No one here believes that apparently but you, ...

    No one here believes that apparently but you,

    You cannot separate hell from judgment. For instance, "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?" Note those are...
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    Living in a fantasy world is not love. Telling...

    Living in a fantasy world is not love. Telling people of a coming day of judgment is a great act of love. You are trying, it seems to me, to justify your unbelief. And I don't say that meanly. You...
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    If you really love people, you will tell them...

    If you really love people, you will tell them about Mt. 25.
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    If you want to believe that, then go for it. It's...

    If you want to believe that, then go for it. It's utter speculation.

    Perhaps Jesus meant what He said and wants WG to believe it.
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    And then, of course, there is the unmistakable...

    And then, of course, there is the unmistakable meaning of Mt. 25, as well as chapters 5, 8, 13 (2 references), and 18. I am faith bound to follow the teachings of Christ as opposed to whoever Gary...
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    If you were "chatting" with Jesus, then you would...

    If you were "chatting" with Jesus, then you would accept what He said. I don't think He said, "WG, just pick and choose from my statements based upon your own preconceived ideas."
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    The ones he described in Mt. 25. Read it for...

    The ones he described in Mt. 25. Read it for yourself.

    You're trying to turn this into an argument. I'm trying to get you to listen to Jesus and make your own views subservient to His. It's not...
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    Jesus didn't write any of the Gospels, but He is...

    Jesus didn't write any of the Gospels, but He is quoted extensively. This is plainly one of those places.

    It's amazing that you consider yourself so familiar with how Jesus "sounds" that you can...
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    All answered in Mt. 25 in a very specific manner...

    All answered in Mt. 25 in a very specific manner including who IS and who IS NOT. If you won't believe Jesus, then why would you ask me?
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    Never heard of "Young Sheldon". We watch very...

    Never heard of "Young Sheldon". We watch very little network TV.

    Why ask me? Read Mt. 25 and take the words of Jesus to heart.
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    Sorry, but Matthew 25 clearly shows that hell is...

    Sorry, but Matthew 25 clearly shows that hell is far more than a garbage pit. The word "gehenna" is not even used in that text. There are a number of Greek words that translate as "hell".

    He...
  47. Question: And It Begins

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    I could actually support a targeted reparations...

    I could actually support a targeted reparations program, paid for with additional taxes on all those who are descendants of former slave owners, if it meant that all talk of past injustices would...
  48. Question: And It Begins

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    Doubtless left out of the conversation will be...

    Doubtless left out of the conversation will be some way to pay for this. The only truly just answer would be to have a tax on those responsible for past discrimination, be it housing or whatever....
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    One Man's Testimony

    This was reposted this morning on a social media site by a guy who went through our program about five years ago. We have stayed somewhat in touch since then. His life reflects the saving power of...
  50. Surely the ever vigilant, truth-hungry Colbert...

    Surely the ever vigilant, truth-hungry Colbert called her on that?? Well, I suppose not.
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