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    Nov 21, 2009, 11:19 PM
    International student tuition fee at Seneca College at Toronto Canada
    •Foreign worker and spouse or dependent family members: a foreign worker is a foreign national who is authorized to work in Canada having been issued a work permit. For purposes of this category, a foreign worker is to present a valid work permit which names a Canadian employer situated in Ontario and the prospective occupation, and is valid for at least six months. The family member must present the foreign worker’s work permit. If a student has a work permit without naming a specific Canadian employer situated in Ontario, the student and his/her family members are not exempted from international student fees.

    This is at seneca web page I just found it right now

    Now I'm in 3rd semester right now...
    Tuition fee for international student is about 6000/semester...
    And as many of you will know tuition for canadian is about 2000/semester...
    So I have paid about $6000/semester... till now

    I have been in canada for a long time...
    My family have tried to immigrate but every time it didn't work very well...
    Anyway my dad got a work permit 1 or 2 years ago...
    This means that I am qualify for the above condition right??

    The problem is.. that I have paid $6000/semester till now...
    And it's really driving me crazy!!
    Because I've wasted about $12000!! Which is A LOT OF MONEY!!

    I've asked them in the first year.. that if I get any benefit if my dad have a work permit...
    But they said NO!!

    And lately, someone I know got into seneca, and they are about in same situation as me.
    Dad have a work permit and the child is a new student... but in different campus.. markham
    I'm in newnham...
    Staff in markham told them that if they have the work permit and tax receipt(or something about tax),
    They could pay their tuition like canadian citizen...

    And they told my mom about it...
    And I asked them again couple of days ago, to international admission, if my dad have a work permit
    Do I get discount on tuition...
    And the lady, ONCE AGAIN, told me NO!!

    Can I do something about this to get the money back??

    $12000 is a lot of money!!
    And I'm so mad!!

    What is more making me angry is that seneca is FRAUDULENT(I don't know if word choice or grammatically it is correct but I think you'll get the idea)...

    I had to actually type in words to find those exemtion tuition policy...
    I went into the site so many times in the beginning to find some information about it...
    But there is no link or category outside on the main page...
    If they had the category under the international student category or somewhere about international student tuition fee, I would have read it and benefitted from it but no!
    I have to actually type in exempt tuition(which I didn't even knew the word exempt), so how would anyone know...

    I have wrote so much and repeated so much because I having hard time to organize myself because I'm so mad!!
    But

    What I want to know is that if I can get the money back somehow...
    I'm not going to sue or anything...
    But is it possible for me to get the money back?
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    Nov 22, 2009, 07:37 AM

    I don't recognize this Seneca college campus, newnham. Where is it ? Seneca College of Applied Arts and Technology is a well established, well respected community college in the Toronto Area. I wouldn't exactly say they are fraudulent. Perhaps if you calmed down when you are trying to articulate your problem to someone there you would get further ahead. I don't think you understand the procedure. What they are trying to tell you when they say you need your father's tax receipt is you have to have proof that he filed income tax to the Canadian government proving that he did actually have a work permit, worked and paid taxes. What they probably want to see is his assessment, which is the government's confirmation that an income tax return was filed.. Everyone in Canada has to file a tax return every year.

    Do you want your entire tuition back, which means you don't want to attent Seneca, or just a refund for the difference in tuition ?

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    Nov 22, 2009, 10:25 PM
    It is at Finch East and little bit after Don Mill...

    Anyway, what I want is refund for the difference in tuition..
    If they had told me I fit into that category I surely didn't have to pay the full international tution. Which they didn't and I wasted, again, $12000!!

    I know Seneca is a good school, well respected. I go there.
    The reason I called them fraudulent is because when I asked them about my dad having working permit and tuition and all, they just simply said no. Not asking any other staff, even though I can see that they are not sure about it,like they have never heard about it. They don't know anything about it. Which they should. It is part of their job. I think not having the knowledge and passing on wrong information is fraudulent, after all I lost large amount of money.
    And one other reason is because while I searched for the information, I felt like that they just don't want me to see the information that I found.
    I had to go through like 10 links to find information. While going it through I couldn't understand if I'm in the right subheading or not.

    When I asked them about it and they told me yes it works, then I would have given them all the information and provide all the documents.
    But I didn't even had a chance because they didn't know their policy themselves.

    If they told me to bring the income tax file (or something) Canadian immigrant citzenship proved documents like you said and get the tuition discounted then I would have happily provide them all the documents.

    They just told me "no", nothing else.
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    Nov 22, 2009, 10:39 PM

    I'm still not understanding this. You said the tuition for non-citizens, or international students is $6000, and for a citizen it is $2000. And you are not a citizen? So I don't understand why you would be entitled to citizen tuition rates. It sounds like it's the same way as in the U.S. in my state, state residents get the lowers rates. Then out of state residents. Then international students. And even though I've lived here my entire life, it's still my responsibility to prove it to them. Are you really sure about your friend being told such different information than you? Are you sure her family really has the exact circumstance as you?
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    Nov 23, 2009, 09:22 AM
    Yes, it is all true.

    It is well known that if one of the parent have a work permit, the child under 18 gets all the benefits as same as canadian citizen, because of the education right or something.

    But it is not well known that university or college student can benefit it.
    Most people said it doesn't apply to university or college student.

    But before I applied to the school, my mom heard from someone she know that u of t and ryerson international students who have a parent with a work permit are treated same as permanent resident and just pay same amount as permanent resident.

    So I asked my school, seneca college, about it and the answer was no.
    And after 3 semesters, right now, my mom heard from her friend that kid applying to seneca got the benefit and just paid permanent resident amount of tuition fee.
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    Nov 23, 2009, 12:06 PM

    Ask for proof that this person, the friend of your mother, got the benefits. Don't just go by word of mouth; which is creating a problem for you.

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    Nov 23, 2009, 02:10 PM
    I should do that! Thanks
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    Jul 4, 2011, 05:42 AM
    That's the reason why I preferred to get one of those <a href="http://www.saintpeterscollegeonline.com/rn-bsn-overview">rn to bsn online degrees</a> instead of a city college, I need to support myself during study somehow and the only way I could do that was by keeping my job. Tuition fees can be very spicy for students with a low income.

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