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Jul 20, 2017, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother Rando
Just pointing out the religious hypocrisy. When a person claims we can't use God's Name with the "J"
That's NOT what dwashbur said. And there's only one religious hypocrite in this thread, and that's the one who can't read, who doesn't make an effort to understand what is written, and who takes words out of context.
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Jul 20, 2017, 10:11 AM
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Trinitarians worship a trinity with no names, that's the basis of the trinity, it pushes a false doctrine. "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 7)
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Jul 20, 2017, 02:29 PM
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Jul 25, 2017, 07:13 AM
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"Trinitarians worship a trinity with no names, that's the basis of the trinity,"
I have no idea what this statement means.
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Jul 25, 2017, 08:08 AM
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Me either, but I do know that in a relationship with a God that you understand everybody else's name for God is a moot point, and matters not, and that includes the names the ancient assigned.
What matters is how the individual addresses his higher power.
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Jul 25, 2017, 10:09 AM
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"There was also born to Seth a son, and he named him Eʹnosh. At that time people began calling on the name of Jehovah." (Genesis 4:26)
"So the abuser of Jehovah’s name should be put to death without fail. The entire assembly should stone him without fail. The foreign resident should be put to death the same as the native for his abusing the Name." (Leviticus 24:16)
Who would want to Hide God's Name?
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Jul 25, 2017, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother Rando
"There was also born to Seth a son, and he named him Eʹnosh. At that time people began calling on the name of Jehovah." (Genesis 1:26)
Check your Bible reference. That's not the verse at Genesis 1:26.
Genesis 1 is part of the Creation story.
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Jul 25, 2017, 11:58 AM
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Thx... got it. (Genesis 4:26) If you look at other scriptures that removed God's Name... LORD with all capital letters was inserted.
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Jul 25, 2017, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Rando
If you look at other scriptures that removed God's Name... LORD with all capital letters was inserted.
In which version?
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Jul 25, 2017, 12:17 PM
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(Genesis 4:26) Translations:
New International Version
Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of the LORD.
New Living Translation
When Seth grew up, he had a son and named him Enosh. At that time people first began to worship the LORD by name.
English Standard Version
To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the LORD.
New American Standard Bible
To Seth, to him also a son was born; and he called his name Enosh. Then men began to call upon the name of the LORD.
King James Bible
And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
A son was born to Seth also, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of Yahweh.
International Standard Version
Seth also fathered a son, whom he named Enosh. At that time, profaning the name of the LORD began.
NET Bible
And a son was also born to Seth, whom he named Enosh. At that time people began to worship the LORD.
New Heart English Bible
There was also born a son to Seth, and he named him Enosh. This one began to call on the LORD's name.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
A son was also born to Seth, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to worship the LORD.
JPS Tanakh 1917
And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh; then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
New American Standard 1977
And to Seth, to him also a son was born; and he called his name Enosh. Then [FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]men began to call upon the name of the LORD.[/COLOR][/FONT]
Jubilee Bible 2000
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos. Then men began to call upon the name of the LORD.[/COLOR][/FONT]
King James 2000 Bible
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.[/COLOR][/FONT]
American King James Version
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call on the name of the LORD.[/COLOR][/FONT]
American Standard Version
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then began men to call upon the name of Jehovah.[/COLOR][/FONT]
Darby Bible Translation
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also was born a son; and he called his name Enosh. Then people began to call on the name of Jehovah.[/COLOR][/FONT]
English Revised Version
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enosh: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.[/COLOR][/FONT]
Webster's Bible Translation
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.[/COLOR][/FONT]
World English Bible
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]There was also born a son to Seth, and he named him Enosh. Then men began to call on Yahweh's name.[/COLOR][/FONT]
Young's Literal Translation
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]And to Seth, to him also a son hath been born, and he calleth his name Enos; then a beginning was made of preaching in the name of Jehovah.[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]Only the Catholic renditions removed the Name, replaced it with LORD, then later on Lord to carry on their deception
[/COLOR][/FONT]Douay-Rheims Bible
[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#001320]But to Seth also was born a son, whom he called Enos; this man began to call upon the name of the Lord. [/COLOR][/FONT]
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Jul 25, 2017, 12:46 PM
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No wonder you're a NUT! You try to nitpick every nuance of ancient man's regional/tribal linguistics and find fault with it. Maybe the fault is yours for losing sight of required personal relationship between God and the flawed humans who seek his guidance.
Who made you dictator of the word, and judge of your fellows? Is that how you honor your God with your gratitude? Is it asking too much to temper your zeal with empathy and understanding? Can you not recognize the relevance of the now, or are you stuck in the past?
A relationship with a book written by ancient man is a poor substitute for knowing the TRUE Creator.
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Jul 25, 2017, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
No wonder you're a NUT! You try to nitpick every nuance of ancient man's regional/tribal linguistics and find fault with it. Maybe the fault is yours for losing sight of required personal relationship between God and the flawed humans who seek his guidance.
Who made you dictator of the word, and judge of your fellows? Is that how you honor your God with your gratitude? Is it asking too much to temper your zeal with empathy and understanding? Can you not recognize the relevance of the now, or are you stuck in the past?
A relationship with a book written by ancient man is a poor substitute for knowing the TRUE Creator.
Oh, my! I'm in love!!!!! 10,000 greenies to Tal! -- and even more than that!
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Jul 25, 2017, 01:08 PM
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Jul 25, 2017, 01:26 PM
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Jul 25, 2017, 05:38 PM
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Micah 6:8 He hath shown thee, O man, what is good: and what doth the Lord require of thee but to do justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
WG 15:6 Stop nitpicking over God's name, and instead show love to each other.
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Jul 26, 2017, 07:16 AM
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"The Catholics certainly knew of God's Name Jehovah, they even had the Name on their Buildings."
Did you happen to read the part about how we don't know how it was pronounced? Did you happen to read the part that explains why "Jehovah" isn't a real word, but an artificial construct in the Hebrew manuscripts that some people misunderstood? Did you happen to read the part where it indicates your whole hobby-horse over a name is chasing after the wind?
English translations put LORD as its translation, not to suppress it. That is a foolish suggestion, because nobody had or has any reason to. "Jehovah" is a fake word with no meaning. LORD conveys respect and indicates that it's something worthy of note. If you can't see that then you're not looking.
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Jul 26, 2017, 09:43 AM
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Jesus prayed, “Our Father hallowed be your Name” (Matthew 6:9) “I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you on the way and to bring you into the place that I have prepared. Pay attention to him, and obey his voice. Do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgressions, because my name is in him.” (Exodus 23:20-21)
Jesus when translated means ‘Jehovah is Salvation‘
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Jul 26, 2017, 10:35 AM
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Not to the rest of the Christian world... only to the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Jul 26, 2017, 03:23 PM
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Correct, others reject the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus addressed his Father in Prayer in John 17:1 and states to his Father that he's the only true God in (John 17:3).
"Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
When Jesus closed in Prayer he stated, "Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you, and these have come to know that you sent me. I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.” (John 17:25-26)
"Everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. The one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the Father and the Son." (2 John 9)
Trinitarians who call themselves Christians are telling an untruth, the trinity is not even in the Bible. God is a Spirit not a three person formula.
"God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” (John 4:24)
"Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him." (John 4:23)
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Jul 26, 2017, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Rando
others reject the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Who does?
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