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    sandalwood7 Posts: 129, Reputation: 25
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    Dec 31, 2009, 02:18 PM
    On what terms (if any) should I take him back? Devastated.
    I am really struggling at the moment. I am heartbroken and in despair. I have left my boyfriend of one year because I found out that he is still using marijuana even though he told me that he was going to try and give up and that (I caught him smoking, even when he knew that I was coming over)] which I find disrespectful) and also found a new stash (he told me had none left). I just can't explain in words how devastated I am right now.

    I don't know if you remember my previous thread, but into our relationship I discovered that he had an addiction to marijuana (everyday; heavy smoker). Since then I have openly discussed my feelings about this, I attended a support group for loved ones of addicts which was very educating. He has gradually cut down during our relationship, and many months ago, stopped smoking when I am around which was a big step for him. I have seen the effort that he has put in, but for him, I know that it is difficult for him to have moderation with the stuff (It has to be nothing at all otherwise it will gradually increase and become a problem again)

    Our relationship has been so much better since these changes have been made and we have both been very happy and content for the last months. But since my discovery, after what he told me, it was the straw that broke the camel's back and I left.

    I know many people might think: marijuana smoker = loser. But I just have to explain that I am in love with a wonderful man who is intelligent, well-read, caring and loving, my soul-mate EXCEPT this one problem = marijuana addiction. This is why it is hard for me, and the reason that I have tried and stuck with this for so long. I have never loved anyone before, like I love him.

    I have basically told him that I love him very much, but that love is not enough to sustain a long-term relationship in this situation. I have told him that I love him, but I cannot see a future with him, with children etc, marriage, if marijauna is part of our relationship. I have told him that he needs to make a decision. Marijuana or me?

    Please don't judge me, because I know some people might think I am naïve or weak to have stuck around so long. I know many of you gave very good advice before which I did not follow because I wasn't strong enough to leave etc I really want to do the right thing that will make me happy in the long run. I am willing to REALLY listen now. I am in an open-minded space. I have to be strong.

    My questions to you are:
    Have I done the right thing?

    Am I being too hard on him given that he has tried to make progress?

    How much time should I give him to think about things? (months? Year?

    If he wants me back (which I know he does) on what terms should I accept him back (or am I being naive) and how can I be sure that he means his comittment?

    I know realtionships are about compromising, and how much should I compromise (ie should I be happy with occasional smoking at special occasions or is this dangerous given addiction which is what I tend to think). Or should I not compromise on this issue.

    Thanks for listening...
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    Dec 31, 2009, 02:40 PM

    Well he is addicted to it so its going to be hard to become sober. But he shouldn't have lied to you wish I could understand. I would say I don't your being to hard on him. But you have to understand that he has a problem. You should give him as much time as he needs. Should you take him back? Has he done this multiple times or is this his first.
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    Dec 31, 2009, 02:57 PM

    Some people use marijuana the way some people take anti depressants,it is a self medicating thing.

    If he is a smart educated wonderful man than how is his use interfering with his life?

    Personally,I find it less harmful than tobacco or alcohol and as we are learning it is a viable alternative to many medications that have harmful side effects.

    It is being decriminalized and even legalized for that very reason and despite popular anti drug mentality,it is not proven to be physically addictive.

    If he has curbed his use ,perhaps that is the best compromise you are going to get,and that he not smoke in your presence.
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    Dec 31, 2009, 04:11 PM
    He's obviously addicted to the marijuana, and from what I've seen, it is a difficult addiction to break. I'm sure he only lied to you in an attempt to cover up the fact that he was still smoking. He knew it'd hurt you to know that he just hasn't been able to kick it.

    You indicate that he is a really great guy otherwise, so I would suggest that you make him undergo a treatment program to try and break the habit. Then, if he's successful, maybe you could consider a future with him.
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    Dec 31, 2009, 04:31 PM

    I agree with Devorameira, he needs to put himself in a treatment program. He is obviously addicted to the marijuana, and he won't be able to do it by himself, without getting some kind of help. I would come straight out and tell him until he can prove himself and get into the program there won't be you and him anymore.
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    Dec 31, 2009, 05:10 PM

    Hi Artlady;

    When it is just casual use, then it is OK. Although I don't want to be around the smoke.

    When he smokes a lot, then I cannot connect with him We are on different levels for weeks. He also shows me little intimacy or affection when he was using heavily in the past.

    I also worry about the health effects. He has asthma and he is always wheezing. I have asked him would he try vaporising instead (no smoke) but he says that the hot feeling of the smoke is part of the whole pleasure thing...

    Thanks for the advice guys
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    Dec 31, 2009, 05:11 PM
    Radioactive:
    It is the first time that he has lied to me. But not the first time he has smoked when I am at his house in another room, or when he knows I am coming over.
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    Dec 31, 2009, 06:37 PM

    When he puts you before the weed he may be ready, but don't hold your breathe.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 04:26 AM

    I honestly think you need to remove yourself from the situation with him, It doesn't sound like he is going to quit. You want a guy like that? I wouldn't be around someone like that and give him the time of day, or even be in the same room as him. Don't let him get caught or you be in the car with him if he has it on him. The outcome won't be good for the both of you.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 04:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sully123 View Post
    I honestly think you need to remove yourself from the situation with him, It doesn't sound like he is going to quit. You want a guy like that? I wouldn't be around someone like that and give him the time of day, or even be in the same room as him. Don't let him get caught or you be in the car with him if he has it on him. The outcome won't be good for the both of you.
    Why do you think weed is so bad?

    I am nearing 56 and I have smoked since I was 14.

    I have all my facilities about me,I have raised two brilliant children as a single mother .

    I only smoke maybe once a week but when I do I feel I have that right and I don't see it as a bad thing.

    Tell me why you feel so adamant against weed.

    No argument but I don't get the zealous anti weed thing .

    Weed is not bad.Its not. People who abuse it are fools but that applies to anything,that is abused. :D Talk to me tell me why.

    I have many medical issues and weed is the only thing that helps me ,I am allergic to most drugs,seriously.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 05:49 AM

    To add to this I am talking about maybe two hits a week off a bowl.

    When I need it.Not getting stoned and doing it for stupidity sake,
    Just because I smoked as a kid does not mean I progressed to be an old age stoner,that would not be an accurate statement because for 15, 16 yrs.I didn't smoke all.Until I got sick and I found something to help ME!


    You can not put people in a box and try to define them.

    Weed is not a bad drug,if it was it would not be on the throes of legalization. If the GOV approves ,think about it.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 08:18 AM
    Since he's so heavily into smoking, treatment is the only answer.

    Everybody has their own opinions here, but, unless he's got a prescription for his marijuana, it's illiegal in the United States.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 08:36 AM

    The definition of an addict, is when you engage in things that causes problems in your life. Seems you're the only problem, and if you both have not reached a compromise that you can agree to, then that's a problem.

    If you don't want it in your life at all then that's a completely different issue, and you have a right to that position. He quits or leaves your life, but that's HIS choice to make. You can't make him stop doing his thing, nor should you. Chances are he was doing it when you met him, and that didn't stop you then did it?

    Ultimately whatever your issue is with him, you either work together to set the boundaries of good behavior, or you don't.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 09:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Devorameira View Post
    Since he's so heavily into smoking, treatment is the only answer.

    Everybody has their own opinions here, but, unless he's got a prescription for his marijuana, it's illiegal in the United States.
    I agree! (Yes, it is illegal in the US)
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    Jan 1, 2010, 10:42 AM

    Smoking pot and asthma do not go together. If he is that intelligent he would know that. Also, when you smoke pot you tend to be either overly romantic or overly not romantic wanting to be alone and not bothered by another person as they will interrupt your high. This would account for the times you previously said he was "not interested in sex" and times where you don't connect for weeks.

    The skunk pot now available in the UK is pot that has probably twice or more the THC level of other pot. It's like drinking white lightening or moonshine compared to a beer. He smokes it because he wants to get high period.

    You sound like you now have "buyers remorse". You bought the idea of you'll be better off without him and now you're moaning that you may have made the wrong decision.

    Where do you see yourself in 5 years with this guy? If you do decide to continue with him I can easily see you still coddling him and still trying to get him to quit his pot habit. You can't make someone quit doing something just because you make them chose you or the addiction. It's not that easy. The addict or alcoholic or heroin addict will seldom chose you over their habit. Not to be regative about it - I'm just being truthful.

    And yes, the second hand smoke that you inhale (considering it does have the super high THC levels) can and will make you high as well. Do you really need or want to be high when you go to work? Hopefully not.

    You found him, so I'm confident you can find another suitable man to take his place. He was just not the one for you. Move on with your life and enjoy dating.
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    Jan 1, 2010, 11:57 AM
    Sandal-any addict will choose their addiction over everyone or everything else. He has to want to change-for himself,no one else. That's not happening here,is it?
    I think you need to let him go as you have a life to lead,and that life should be lived according to your idea of what is acceptable, nobody else's.
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    Jan 4, 2010, 02:47 PM

    Hi Artlady,

    I have just got back from a no-internet holiday... Now at work.I really appreciate your honesty. I will have a think and get back to you... I think it would do me a lot of good to actually write down my feelings about weed... But can't do it now (work blaaah). Will have a think and write them down in my next post :-)

    Thanks Talaniman and Amicon and Devorameira for your advice... I am slowly getting my head around all this

    Happy New Year
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    Jan 4, 2010, 05:57 PM

    I think the problem could very well be the danger to the OP's professional license as a Physician should he/she be stopped and/or arrested.
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    Jan 4, 2010, 06:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I think the problem could very well the danger to the OP's professional license as a Physician should he/she be stopped and/or arrested.
    But remember JKT she's supposedly not in the same room as the smokers but that is irrelevant to the OP. This guy is the "love of her life" blah blah blah and she's not going to listen to us. She just came here to "see if it was okay" to take him back under "her terms". I figured that one out a long time ago about this OP. She apparently didn't read my post about moving on with her life as she's not interested in "wrapping her head around" the truth regardless of how much we tell her it will never work. She's more interested in learning more about pot smoking, etc. than actually paying any attention to the fact it's illegal and can cause some pretty awful stuff to happen in her life down the road.

    Maybe, just maybe she might pay attention to the fact that she could lose her license and possibly her freedom and sit in prison over him and his pot smoking addiction. I doubt it.
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    Jan 5, 2010, 07:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Devorameira View Post
    Since he's so heavily into smoking, treatment is the only answer.

    Everybody has their own opinions here, but, unless he's got a prescription for his marijuana, it's illiegal in the United States.


    OP is not in US. I think this thread should be combined with first thread about same issue for sake of clarity. Also helpful to read other posts.

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