[stilllearning]

This is what I have realized today. I had my mother call her up for business so I wouldn't have to talk to her. After the call I of course started asking questions. She says... (she sounds like she always does, agravated.

Now I never really noticed her mood swings before because I always thought I was the one causing it. Oh sure I would say it wasn't my fault but I didn't believe it. But she really was a b***h

She has fell and hurt her leg (this happens a lot with her, and her mother etc.ect and is in a air cast and is STILL unsure what to do about the relationship. She also tells my mom she's not stringing me along. But her aunt who is a therpist tells her we can work it out.. Great more doormatage. Bottom line she is still not facing anything and is still in defense mode.

So I ask my mother a question. Did she ever care? She looks at me and says no, she never cared. She couldn't. She isn't capable. You have been lonely the whole time you 2 have been together and it has killed me and your father. She gets what's she wants every time and she has in this instance to. I believe this. My mother has taken her side from the get go. So I ask her if she thought I cared, she said yes.

This made me mad. So I've been hanging on these past 3 weeks thinking she is in torment just like me and the next time we meet it will be to hug,cry get it out in the open?

Forget that. Im getting my thoughts together and am going to tell her we need to meet up and talk so I can get some closure. Im going to tell her she never cared, I'm going to tell her she has played little mind games to control me ever since we have been going out. 12 years is long enough.

Im about to pull the rug out from under this and get this over with. If she never cared then I can find someone who can. I don't deserve this crap.

I know the mistakes I've made,one of them is not ending is sooner. Ive always been scared of her. Having kids, getting married.And all because I did feel lonely, she wouldn't let down her wall long enough to care. She knows dam well I've been getting healthy with my therapy and she can't take it.

[Fr_Chuck]

? Having your mom call her and then questioning your mom about her?

Closure? If you really want to end it, stop checking on her, don't keep in any type of contact and get move on.

[stilllearning]

Yeah I know. My mom didn't question her at all. (they talk) She just said all these things. The call was business and I wasn't there. We have ties still and I'm trying to take care of them without contact. I am very hurt ATM and don't need anymore of her ramblings right now.