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    chetatkinsLA Posts: 30, Reputation: 3
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    Jul 29, 2009, 03:41 AM
    Its my EX´s Birthday!
    Ok, I´m sure you guys are bored of answering this question, but I´m having a conflict here. I have been on NC for some months now, doing really well lately, not answering her emails, etc... I almost thought I was over her... but then... tomorrow is her birthday... and I´m feeling weird again. WHy?? Im not holding to any hope at all! She has a new BF now, and he will make her day as happy as ever, and I shouldn't care, but the truth is I do. I guess the Birthday is bringing up the EX subject back to my head.

    The question is... should I say something to her? Yes, I know... NC means NC (Im seeing KCTIGER screaming it to me :D), but I have this "rule" that I always say Happy Birthday to my exes. I have always done it, and I don't see what harm would that do to me right now if I did it. I mean, NC is for my healing, but I can't see what would go wrong with me saying "Hey, Happy Bday! Have a great day", right? I like to be the "decent" and "correct" guy, and doing this is somehting I believe in. She probably just answers "thanks!" and that's all. Not expecting more...

    SHe´s been a bit** to me after the relationship ended, and I hate her for that, but I think saying Happy Birthday shouldn't be that bad? WHat do you guys think?

    ANd YES, Im obviously not yet over her... I know that :) Still working hard on that, though :)

    Thanks!
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    Jul 29, 2009, 03:48 AM

    Well to be honest if she's being a bit**, as you put it, I wouldn't waste my time with a "Happy Birthday." Sounds to me like she doesn't deserve it.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 04:55 AM

    Nope, I didn't even read your whole post and NO do not break NC. You will feel foolish for doing so after you do it.
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    kctiger Posts: 3,653, Reputation: 1319
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    Jul 29, 2009, 05:27 AM

    Saying happy birthday to an ex is like saying good boy to a cat... they don't care and they really don't want you talking to them!

    Don't waste your time.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 06:21 AM

    By asking us this question and seeking our approval shows that you already have a lot of doubts about the idea. Stick with your instincts. It is a bad idea. I don't see anything good that can come with it. Think about it this way:

    1) You message her and she responds. Then you will end up analyzing her response, which will reset a lot of the progress that you've made.

    2) You message her and she doesn't respond. Then you will wonder why she couldn't even say thank you. Again, resetting much of your progress.

    No good can come of this. Stick to the rules and keep up with your progress.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 07:31 AM

    I would advise don't anything - No good will come of it.

    Ask yourself why your doing it - is it really to be nice to her or is it a gesture for your own benefit.

    My ex left me for someone else and NC rules applied. I did not send her anything for her birthday. Mine was about 6 weeks later and she sent me a happy birthday message. I can safely say it pretty much mucked up my day as I was analzing her motifs for most of it.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 07:39 AM
    Are you secretly wishing a response from her if you send a happy birthday wish? Your doing well with NC but your not over her. This seems like to easy a way to get her to come to you. If you send a birthday message and she responds then what? Ignore it? Its pointless. Don't waste your time and her wondering.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 08:56 AM

    As everyone else said I wouldn't do it. I mean you said she was being a BI#@ at the end of the relationship. Just keep on going with your NC. Let this be the ex that you don't wish happy birthday too because from what you said it doesn't sound like she is very deserving of one. Plus she has a boyfriend all ready so what's the point.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 09:38 AM

    No way.

    Doesn't help your cause or hers.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 09:50 AM

    It won't do anything except keep you from breaking your tradition. So you would only be wasting your time to satisfy something you do as a general rule to yourself.
    A B! Doesn't appreciate anything and usually only finds fault so why bother.
    Save your breath, save your time, save your dime, and save your NC rule.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 10:14 AM

    Interesting answers from everyone. I guess I'm so totally different and that's OK. Why allow someone else's behavior to change who you are? I understand NC, but to me, sometimes NC only emphasizes the control the person has over you. Or you over them. I would say yes, but then I also don't fully agree with NC. There will be a period that is given or taken to allow both parties to get used to not being together or get "over" each other. However, don't you eventually take time to speak to that person and kind of get some "closure". If not how can you say you ever really cared. I'm still half way "cool" with every man I ever said I loved.
    I think that when you are working through a break up, as important as it is to watch your boundaries and keep your distance, there are always things that you want to say or wish you could say. Whether they are heard, taken into consideration or even appreciated or not isn't your concern, but to get them off your chest and out in the open is what I find healing. Yes it depends on the maturity of both parties and the strength of both parties and as long as the understanding is that there you don't want anything and you aren't giivng anything. My text would read:
    No response please... No expectations, no requests... just wishing you a happy birthday.

    Solves it for me.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 10:44 AM

    If you are going to text, its better to not put all of that extra info. If you feel you have to then a simple Happy B-day would suffice. My question would be why? What is it doing for you? Is it making you feel better? He said he wasn't over her so to me it seems like he would send it to get some sort of response back from her. It may also be because he wants show that he is a good guy and still wishes her a happy b day. She has a boyfriend and other friends that will wish her happy b day.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 11:19 AM

    He also said he "has this "rule" that I always say Happy Bday to my exes." "I like to be the "decent" and "correct" guy, and doing this is somehting I believe in." and stated that he wasn't expecting more.
    So my point was, let that be known... no expectations... just keeping with what I do. Which is why I said why allow someone else to change who you are. Prepare yourself for for the obligatory thanks if anything and try to avoid it by assking her not to respond.
    Just my thoughts... because I am similar minded, I always show I care regardless of where it leaves me. I have to know my boundaries going in, but I am true to myself. Pride isn't a good look. And I see holding out on someone that you know you care about prideful.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 11:29 AM

    If it was something that he always has done then why is he questioning if he should? I am not saying he should change who he is but why wish her happy birthday. He can still care about her without wishing her a happy birthday. I think there is something a little more to the happy birthday text then there is to all his other ex's.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 11:37 AM

    I agree just because it is something he always does she doesn't need to 'benefit'. Skipping or making exemption clauses doesn't prevent you from still 'always' saying happy birthday. They just weren't included.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 11:41 AM
    I agree with the others. It's fine if you are OVER your ex and expect nothing from it. But from the way you described your story, you are not over her yet. If you do send her a happy birthday message, you will lose a lot of progress you made with the MONTHS of NC.

    Read so many posts on here about people who break NC and then get emotionally ruined again.

    It's fine if you are over them and it's harmless, but your intentions don't seem harmless and this "rule" seems to be your excuse for contacting her. You said it yourself... you aren't over her yet!
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    chetatkinsLA Posts: 30, Reputation: 3
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    Jul 29, 2009, 12:35 PM
    FIrst of all, thanks for the answers.

    I am the living proof that breaking NC is killer... I have been stabbed a couple of times by doing it, and its horrible... BUT... after ALL That... I don't even care anymore. I mean, all the pain has been gone through. All the worse things I could hear or see I have seen.there is nothing else that could kill me right now. I am done with the relationship and all I want is to show that "Im still here, alive, and that I´m not gonna change who I am for that person".

    I agree with MsMewiththat in all she said. I understand everybody else´s response to NOT break NC cause you have a lot of expericne and you´ve been there... but I have gone already through all the pain I could go through, and all I need is to get a new girl to cpmpletely remove the ex from my mind. Not a sa rebound... I have already done my months of work, and I am getting ready. The only reason why I think I´m not over her, is more like a "competition" thing. The fact that she has a boyfriend and I Don't have a Girl, makes me angry, sad, and when I think what she might be doing with the nw guy simply kills me inside. If I had a girl I´m dating, I wouldn´t care! Maybe I´m weird, but this is how I feel!

    So, again.. I´m not epecting NOTHING from this. Just to show and prove my point that I am a decent guy, and she sucks... will she care? Don't know, but at least I´m happy with myself for being who I am and expressing what I think should be expressed.

    And yes, I said she was a bit**, but maybe the way she acted was the "standard and usual way to act" according to many people here. Blowing off somebody you LOVED to me is being a bit**, while maybe for somebody here that just is "being honest" like I have read before in other posts... so... yeah, I guess she did what she had to do since our relationship wasn´t going anywhere (very different characters and not very compatible), and cut it before it was too late to be more painful.

    I really think if I had a new girl I would be a lot better... but nowadays finding somebody cool that you like is SOOOOOOO difficult that I get overwhelmed and I just pass and live my life without a SO, and sometimes thinking how much fun my ex is having wth her boyfriend... which sucks, but oh well... I guess that´ll make me stronger right? :)

    So, appreciating all your advice here, I might only text her saying HAPPY Birthday! And that's all. That way I do a mid point in between what you guys told me and what I thought I should do. I would NEVER call her, or send her a present or cards... just a simple text.

    I´ll write back here to see what she does or what she doesn´t. In any case, I don't care, honestly. I just want to show that I am decent, doesn't matter if she wants to see it or not.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 12:37 PM

    If your train of thought is that until you have a new girl you won't be completely over her, then you have a LOT further to go. The fact that you are in "competition" with your ex clearly shows you have no business contacting her.

    Trying to not change who you are has NOTHING to do with your ex. Arguments on this thread that try and prove otherwise are false. Regardless of whether I text my ex or no does not change who I am and has NOTHING to do with me being a nice guy. Thinking otherwise is purely delusional.

    It is widely known in my circle of friends my ex is dating a lawyer, and I am single... you know what the best part is? I DO NOT CARE! I don't need a girlfriend to change the way I feel about my ex. She is free to live her life as am I.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 12:42 PM
    Do what you think is right.

    Getting a new girl will not heal you... only time will. How much time is up to you, and by the looks of it you'll need a lot more time after contacting your ex.

    What happens if she responds? Starts up a conversation? What then? Were you going to try to be friends with her? If it kills you that she has a boyfriend and all the fun they are having together, then these are the things you have to be prepared for if she "befriends" you after this text... it'll only get worse.

    You know you're a decent guy, and I'm sure SHE knows that. So what is there left to prove?

    Keep us informed and good luck.
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    Jul 29, 2009, 12:52 PM
    Ok, OK.. I don't want to be the stubborn guy that doesn't listen to people and then you guys go: I TOLD YOUUU and bring pizzas and all that, hehe :)

    You guys are right. I need time to get over all this, and probably a new girl is not going to do it. ANd yes... texting her or not is not going to change who I am.

    So.. if she responds.. I don't answer anymore. Im not going to go with a conversation, cause she is the first one that Doesn't want to lead me (she said that a couple of times) and I know she will only answer THANKS, or something like that. I am DEFINITELY not going to be her friend, and Im not going to listen to what she says. I don't think saying Happy Birthday is breaking NC... its just breaking a rule for a good cause. I really don't think its going to get me worse. I know myself, and after all the turmoils and rollercoasters... I can take anything now. But she is not that bad, she is not going to say" Thanks, by the way, I f***ed my new boyfriend last night and hes so much better than you" in the text.. she´s just not THAT mean, haha. SHe is correct when it comes to communication. She has had a LOT of boyfriends (she is kind of problematic and has a lot of youth issues... having 3 different mums, a dad that mis-educated she and her sister telling them that all guys are MEAN and bad, and that marriage is a curse... etc... having a mum that's 50 years old, super hot, and that sleeps every night with a 22 year old guy... ) and she knows the drill.. so well... I truly believe although I don't have to prove anything to her, that saying Happy Birthday will show that I´m better than she is. What for? I don't really know, maybe just to make myself feel better. ISn´t it worth that?

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