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    Sep 17, 2005, 02:20 PM
    I don't know
    I don't know if this means anything, lately my ex (works at the same place) been giving me a funny vibe. She moved to our department(3 weeks back), so I get to see her more often now. I catch her sneeking peeks at me and then turns away quickly, giving me smiles once too many. Saying hi more then before. Just a week back she called to say hi and see what I was up to. I took that as she wanted to know what I was up to and nothing more. I don't know what to make of it. I don't want to read too much into it. Any clues on what's really going on?.
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    Sep 17, 2005, 03:08 PM
    It could be she's just trying to be friendly, or she's trying to get close to you again. If you get a chance to have a coffee break together, just ask her, if you are on 'speaking terms' and have no hard feelings towards each other. It's either that or she's wondering what you feel about her being there and too shy to ask. If your position at work is not threatened by her job, then I would risk it and just plain talk to her, after all we are all only human. Good luck.
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    Sep 19, 2005, 12:46 PM
    Good advice above
    Go somewhere private, but not intimate (if that makes sense), and just ask her. What do you have to lose? You didn't mention why y'all broke up or how long you were together (or apart), but if it didn't work before because of a BIG issue, tread lightly and be cautious. If it's been awhile, like, years, and you think the two of you have grown up a bit and could iron out any small wrinkles that caused the breakup the first time, then maybe there's a future. But if it were over something big, trust me, if it didn't work the first time, it won't work the second. Good luck!
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    Sep 19, 2005, 01:33 PM
    "Go somewhere private, but not intimate (if that makes sense), and just ask her."

    I think that's a BIG mistake. Big - woman don't want that. They want mystery, a challenge. You break all that. WOMAN DON'T think in logic - that's logical and you WILL kill all attraction she is building. You throw your cards on the table and you're done.

    You need to tease her, make fun of her - show your indifference towards her. Like you don't care about the out come.

    Show your true feelings guys and your DONE!! No question. Woman dfon't want that sick, soft, sensitive guy - NEVER.
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    Sep 19, 2005, 01:33 PM
    AND take your time with this - let it play out - no pressure on her. None. If you want her back take your time.
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    Sep 19, 2005, 07:02 PM
    Wildcat was partially right
    It's obvious... she's feeling you out. She wants to know how you feel about her but she's not going to say it. That would be dumb, it's called pursuing a man... we do it from time to time but only when we are confident enough about ourselves that we know we won't be rejected. I can't tell you what to do in this case because I'm not sure what it is that you want from her or what it is that you are expecting.

    Yes, women do like mystery, I can't dispute that. Please don't throw your cards on the table just yet, it takes the fun out of her trying to see if she can get you back or not.

    It's not that we women don't know what we want, sometimes we don't know if we want it or not until we get it... If that makes any sense.
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    Sep 20, 2005, 04:25 AM
    There is still another question out there... Forgot to ask if you or she have new relationships - and if so how would they feel about this all. Look at the whole picture. I'm a woman and have been hurt a few times also, and I got my REVENGE (even after waiting a few years), so I know how this can blow out of proportion. But talking with one to get things cleared would be better than losing sleep and continuously wondering as it might cause stress at work and we all need our jobs. You've got a life to live - with or without her. Again, Good Luck. ;)
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    Sep 20, 2005, 05:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by letmeno
    It's obvious...she's feeling you out. She wants to know how you feel about her but she's not going to say it. That would be dumb, it's called pursuing a man...we do it from time to time but only when we are confident enough about ourselves that we know we won't be rejected. I can't tell you what to do in this case because I'm not sure what it is that you want from her or what it is that you are expecting.

    Yes, women do like mystery, i can't dispute that. please don't throw your cards on the table just yet, it takes the fun out of her trying to see if she can get you back or not.

    It's not that we women don't know what we want, sometimes we don't know if we want it or not until we get it...If that makes any sense.

    She is the type of person, that makes sure she puts herself in a position where she won't get rejected.
    When we first got together (been together for two years), she showed that she was interested in me, but never acutaly said it or made it clear to me. I was the one who first made my feelings clear to her. She later told me that, she was nervous about making her feelings clear to me, because she was afraid of rejection.

    This time around, she must be more nervous, because she is the one that left me (almost 4 months ago). Maybe she is afraid that I might still have hard feelings over the breakup and I might not want her back.

    So my point is that she will never make the first move. She'll play around the bush, until I do.

    For what I want, yes some part of me wants to get back with her, but I really really hurt by the breakup. I'm afraid that she might just do it again, if we ever get back together.
    I also believe in second chances, and forgiving and forgeting.

    I have no plans of putting all my cards on the table. I'll be patient.

    Anymore advise? Keep it coming please.
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    Sep 20, 2005, 05:47 AM
    You can wait for more advice, or you can make a move, depending on whether you want to sleep well at night and stop wondering. You should go and get an answer, one way or the other. Then you can take it from there. Let us know about your progress and don't just stand there... Good Luck.
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    Sep 20, 2005, 07:21 AM
    One_life, I sent you a private message.
    Hope it helps!
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    Sep 20, 2005, 02:48 PM
    Heartache IS avoidable.

    You put too much importance into this - you need OTHER things in your life ALWAYS!! Women are PART of your life - NOT your life - remember that always!! Never forget that!!

    When you are busy with friends, family, work, WORKOUTS, school, religion, HOBBIES, etc. - she WILL know you are a man and that she can feel safe tha tyou Won't make her your world - women hate that!!

    I think again, you put too much importance in this - she's kind of hijacked your brain. Not good.

    See when you put a woman a head of you, all these avoidable problems occur.

    Take your time with this - AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOOD!! DON'T SHARE YOUR FEELINGS WITH HER!! PLEASE!!
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    Sep 20, 2005, 06:44 PM
    Play it safe
    I have to say that I do agree with wildcat. She sounds a little wishy washy to me but most of us are that way. She thought she wanted the break up, she got it and now she is not real sure if she done the right thing. Since you don't really have a clue as to what bag she might come out of next, play it slow and easy. As chery said, ask her out for lunch and see where the conversation goes. I wouldn't advise you to tell her that you miss her and want her back, that would put your heart on your sleeve and open up the door for hurt. If you are dating someone else, don't stop. I wouldn't stop dating anyone on the account of this young lady. Just start as friends to be on the safe side and see where it goes. But don't share your true feelings just yet!
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    Sep 20, 2005, 06:53 PM
    "I wouldn't advise you to tell her that you miss her and want her back"

    Yes! Please don't tell her that. Too many people here tell others to do that. You put your heart on your sleeve and YOU ARE DONE - especially early. Give her the mystery she craves!!

    Just take it easy and see where it goes.
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    Sep 29, 2005, 08:42 PM
    Here is an update
    I'm so nervous about even asking her for coffie or lunch. I don't know what she really wants (she seems to giving me mixed signels) she seems interested but never makes it clear. Since she is the one that left me, it is only right she makes the first move (that is only if she wants to get back together). I don't want to open myself to get hurt. But knowing her nature she expects me to make the first move as expainled in my previous posts.

    I hate being stuck in this situation. I need to go about this, without being hurt. When she dumped me, that hurt like crazy and I don't think I can handle it this time around.

    Now that she works in the same dept, I see more often, and yes sometimes it does bring back some of the pain. I think to myself, if she does not want to get back together, then I don't think I can handle being her friend, or seeing her around at the office too often.


    I'm playing it cool and all. Never shared my feelings. Maybe that is why she does not want to make her move, because she is unsure of my feelings for her( I'm good at hiding my feelings, if I want to).

    Any more advise.
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    Sep 29, 2005, 09:06 PM
    Take it slow
    Take it easy!! She is not a stranger or anything, you know this woman remember?

    She want's to see you on a more than friendship level. Take my word for it.

    Ask her to lunch and just be easy about it. Take it slow, talk as friends, not ex lovers.
    She is not going to make it clear to you that she may want to see you again because she screwed up, she hurt you, she knows it, and she is not really sure exactly how you feel about her since she is the one who dumped you. You may reject her. Remember, she is protecting herself right now also. She may want to see you again to see if she made a mistake, get involved with you again, decide it wasn't right and back out again. Keep that in mind too.

    Just take it slow. Most importantly, BE FRIENDS FIRST!!
    Casually joke with her and tell her that you noticed her checking you out, warm her up to you all over again, and remind her why she ever loved you in the first place. If you want solid proof of what her motives are, make her feel comfortable enough to open up. Don't talk about the break up, try and stay clear of that subject totally! Do not come off as you are still hurt, and upset. Make her believe that that is the past, you have moved on and you are over it. That will put her at ease of any hard feelings you may have.

    You can do this. You have the advantage because you know her intamately and personally. You know how to put her at ease and you know how to make her feel comfortable. That is the key to getting a woman to open up. Put her mind at ease.
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    Sep 30, 2005, 08:18 AM
    It all sounds to me that after the breakup, she had expected you to reflect and grow and is checking to see if you did so. From what you said about 'acting' you did not learn much, and still wonder why she left you in the first place. Well, try and write down what you think you did right and what you think you did wrong (you, not her), as for every action there is a reaction, and she reacted by leaving you, so there's a hint. If you have had other relationships since then, and they did not go any further or they no longer exist, then you really need to do an attitude check on yourself. Wondering and asking for advice when you are not sure about yourself, is not going to help you much. If it's reassurance you seek, then you need to get that from yourself too, not strangers who don't get the 'whole picture'. Get to like yourself before requesting this of others. Good Luck in introducing yourself to YOU!
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    Sep 30, 2005, 05:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Chery
    It all sounds to me that after the breakup, she had expected you to reflect and grow and is checking to see if you did so. From what you said about 'acting' you did not learn much, and still wonder why she left you in the first place. Well, try and write down what you think you did right and what you think you did wrong (you, not her), as for every action there is a reaction, and she reacted by leaving you, so there's a hint. If you have had other relationships since then, and they did not go any further or they no longer exist, then you really need to do an attitude check on yourself. Wondering and asking for advice when you are not sure about yourself, is not going to help you much. If it's reassurance you seek, then you need to get that from yourself too, not strangers who don't get the 'whole picture'. Get to like yourself before requesting this of others. Good Luck in introducing yourself to YOU!.

    What?? (sorry the post was to short so I had to add more questions marks)

    Good luck dear
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    Sep 30, 2005, 05:13 PM
    It's simple. She's checking to see if you learned anything from the past. Have you asked yourself why she broke up with you the first time. Check it out. Your nervousness is a sign that you are scared of rejection. Was that short enough?
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    Oct 1, 2005, 05:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Chery
    It's simple. She's checking to see if you learned anything from the past. Have you asked yourself why she broke up with you the first time. Check it out. Your nervousness is a sign that you are scared of rejection. Was that short enough?

    That is my whole point, I'm scared of rejection. I'm scared of being hurt. Is it not normal to feel that way? I hate to make my feelings clear to her and just be turned down. It will hurt like crazy.
    For God sakes, we were together for two years, we planned to marry each other. We loved each other. True love. I know some of you will say, if she loved you so much then why did she leave you. All I know for sure is that she left me and in my wildes dreams I never expected her to do that.
    We were really close. But in the end that did not matter.

    Trust me I've learned a lot from the breakup.What is puzzling is the fact you haven't a clue about what on between us and yet you judge me.

    All I can say to you, is take it easy.
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    Oct 1, 2005, 07:12 PM
    Please do not get me wrong, I judge nobody. My intent there was to give you 'food for thought'. I'm over 50 and 'been there, done that', so I know that we all make mistakes. But if we don't take the time to reflect back once in a while we don't learn from our past mistakes. That's what I meant. And you stating that you did learn from them should help you give her the information she's seeking right now. What she probably wants to know is if you have changed and learned from the past and if you are still interested in her. Otherwise she would not give you so many signals. Try writing a letter to her, even if you never send it, then read it yourself again, and see if you can pick up on what her reaction to that letter would be. Bounce it off on another female friend and ask her advice. Make a list of your current pros and cons that you still plan to work on, like gaining self-confidence for one. None of us is born with knowing it all, we learn as we go along life's path. Good Luck to you. P.S. You can even 'bounce it off' on me through a private message. Also check up on my profile and see my past answers, especially the one about 'a woman needing space and why'. If you can't find it, PM me any time. :)

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