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    galveston Posts: 451, Reputation: 60
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    Sep 19, 2009, 02:12 PM
    Can we afford these people?
    How long will we put up with these enviro-whack jobs?

    I remember several years ago that Texas had a program to eradicate fire ants. I think they were using DDT (?) applied from airplanes.

    The job was about half done when the enviros got involved. Said the pesticide was causing the birds’ egg shells to be soft, and there would not be chicks hatched. Well, the program was halted.

    Result?

    The fire ants climbed the trees and ate the little birds. We still don’t have those little birds, but we have a LOT of fire ants.

    Then you may remember not too many years ago when the enviros brought logging to a halt in the Pacific Northwest. Seems, the spotted owl was being disturbed.

    Result?

    The great horned owl moved in and ate the horned owl. So we still don’t have spotted owls there, businesses were ruined, people put out of work, we buy lumber from places like Germany, China, and Chile.

    For years the environmentalists blocked measures like controlled burning in the California forests.

    Result?

    The underbrush got so thick that when a fire does start, it cannot be contained. Billions of dollars in damage over the years and human and animal life lost.

    Now these nut cases are at it again. Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley cannot get the water they have to have there to grow their crops because someone found smelt in the irrigation canals.

    Result?

    Farmers ruined, mortgages foreclosed, workers on soup lines, automobiles repossessed, shortage of fresh fruits and vegetables, and truckers no longer hauling that freight.

    We seem to have a surplus of environmentalists. We should export most of them to China, India, or South America so we can get a level playing field.
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    Sep 19, 2009, 03:17 PM
    I hear that Byelorus could use some, no wait, that's environmental engineers, not protesters and lawyers. You're right, China needs the lawyers.
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    Sep 22, 2009, 07:02 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    We seem to have a surplus of environmentalists. We should export most of them to China, India, or South America so we can get a level playing field.
    They are university trained you know, so you cannot expect them to be critical thinkers. No doubt these other places also have plenty of academics.

    It is interesting to watch them protecting a rain forest in one place while not too far away over the border, the rain forest is being demolished rapidly. They cannot go there to protest because it wouldn't be tolerated and they would be punched in the head. These people are a product of a liberal education only available in a society with too much money and a lot of time on their hands.

    We have them here; painting the roofs of power stations with their slogans, chaining themselves to trees and generally getting in the way. We would like to export them but this sort of brain drain just doesn't happen.
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    Sep 23, 2009, 10:05 PM

    Yeah they are real whack-o's!
    14 Greenpeace protesters were arrested today for hanging off the Fort Pitt Bridge and the West End Bridge.
    What kills me is they are protesting their own PC stores... Starbucks, Whole Foods and Trader Joe's.

    PETA really kills me with their logic.
    I want so bad for them to protest here again so I can wear my fur that some old lady gave me.

    The latest project is the Delta smelt or something like that is getting caught in drains in California. So the farmers aren't allowed to water their fields.

    Here is the link

    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....lta-smelt-war/
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    Sep 24, 2009, 09:42 AM

    Yes you'll have all the winners in town this week protesting the G-20 meeting .
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    Sep 24, 2009, 10:54 AM

    In answer to the OP, no we cannot afford them. But we've got them anyway.

    Sometimes I think we really should export them to China. The Chinese government has a method of dealing with those who have a different political opinion from their own that might prove "enlightening" to the enviro-nuts... but only briefly.
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    Sep 24, 2009, 02:47 PM
    No we cannot afford them and they need to get a life...

    ELMWOOD PARK, N.J. -- There is a battle for America's behinds.

    It is a fight over toilet paper: the kind that is blanket-fluffy and getting fluffier so fast that manufacturers are running out of synonyms for "soft" (Quilted Northern Ultra Plush is the first big brand to go three-ply and three-adjective).

    It's a menace, environmental groups say -- and a dark-comedy example of American excess.

    The reason, they say, is that plush U.S. toilet paper is usually made by chopping down and grinding up trees that were decades or even a century old. They want Americans, like Europeans, to wipe with tissue made from recycled paper goods.

    It has been slow going. Big toilet-paper makers say that they've taken steps to become more Earth-friendly but that their customers still want the soft stuff, so they're still selling it.
    The story goes on to say a whopping 5 percent of the paper industry is for toilet paper. If I could do polls I'd do one on this... perhaps you'll vote anyway.

    Are you for saving old-growth forests?

    Or for saving your behinds?

    Seeing as how these people would seemingly love to send us back to the stone age and need something to do, I have a suggestion for a new occupation for environmentalist wackos...
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    Sep 28, 2009, 04:57 PM

    Additional insanity.

    I recently watched Glenn Beck showing part of a video that was presented to kindergartners, telling them that we are using up all our resources. The video told the kiddos that there were only 4% of the trees that had not been cut down. Beck proceeded to explain that due to reforesting, we not have more trees than we did 75 years ago.

    But it goes beyond that.

    People have jobs cutting, hauling, and processing those trees, turning them into products that consumers want.

    More people have jobs hauling those products to wholesalers and retailers, where sales people have jobs selling those products, and office workers have jobs related to sales.

    Finally, consumers get products that make their lives better in some way that they are willing to pay for.

    Don't forget the banking institutions that have jobs providing credit to buy those products.

    And finally, those new forests take up more CO2 and release more oxygen than old forests.

    None of those good things will happen if we DON't cut those trees.

    All this proves that education has no relation to IQ.
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    Sep 28, 2009, 05:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Additional insanity.

    .
    You think it is insane, watch this
    Professor Bob Carter torpedoes the “scientific consensus” on the climate HOAX
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    Sep 29, 2009, 09:47 AM
    It's no wonder the consensus is as it is, they're too busy surfing porn to pay attention to anything else and there's no money left for research grants:

    EXCLUSIVE: Porn surfing rampant at U.S. science foundation

    Jim McElhatton

    Employee misconduct investigations, often involving workers accessing pornography from their government computers, grew sixfold last year inside the taxpayer-funded foundation that doles out billions of dollars of scientific research grants, according to budget documents and other records obtained by The Washington Times.

    The problems at the National Science Foundation (NSF) were so pervasive they swamped the agency's inspector general and forced the internal watchdog to cut back on its primary mission of investigating grant fraud and recovering misspent tax dollars.

    "To manage this dramatic increase without an increase in staff required us to significantly reduce our efforts to investigate grant fraud," the inspector general recently told Congress in a budget request. "We anticipate a significant decline in investigative recoveries and prosecutions in coming years as a direct result."

    The budget request doesn't state the nature or number of the misconduct cases, but records obtained by The Times through the Freedom of Information Act laid bare the extent of the well-publicized porn problem inside the government-backed foundation.

    For instance, one senior executive spent at least 331 days looking at pornography on his government computer and chatting online with nude or partially clad women without being detected, the records show.

    When finally caught, the NSF official retired. He even offered, among other explanations, a humanitarian defense, suggesting that he frequented the porn sites to provide a living to the poor overseas women. Investigators put the cost to taxpayers of the senior official's porn surfing at between $13,800 and about $58,000.

    "He explained that these young women are from poor countries and need to make money to help their parents and this site helps them do that," investigators wrote in a memo.
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    Sep 29, 2009, 10:01 AM
    Hmmmm... no wonder there is a consensus among scientist that there is a warming going on .
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    Sep 29, 2009, 10:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    hmmmm ......no wonder there is a consensus among scientist that there is a warming going on .
    You got it, LOL.
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    Sep 29, 2009, 10:19 AM

    Hello gal:

    There's wacko's all around us... But, I LIKE the fact that they've reintroduced wolves back into N. America. I'm glad they saved the bald eagle and the condor. I'm glad they're working on saving the salmon, and it doesn't bother me at all when they try to disrupt whaling..

    I even separate my trash. But, you already KNOW I'm a whacko.

    excon
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    Sep 29, 2009, 04:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello gal:


    I even separate my trash. But, you already KNOW I'm a whacko.

    excon
    I'm too polite to say so.:)
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    Sep 29, 2009, 04:58 PM

    What's really frustrating is that these people NEVER admit to their role in disasters stemming from their actions.

    There should be some way to hold them accountable.
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    Sep 30, 2009, 02:26 AM
    Gal

    I have been watching the National Park documentary by Ken Burns this week and it reminded me about a Michael Crichton lecture I had heard about the unintended consequences of management decisions related to natural resources and wild life conservation.

    MichaelCrichton.com | Complexity Theory and Environmental Management

    As I have mentioned one of my hobbies is hiking . My wife volunteers her time for local trail maintanance and one of the things she constantly emphasises is this is not only done for the convenience of the recreational hiker ;but also because it creates fire barriers throughout the park .

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