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    May 15, 2006, 05:44 AM
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    What do you think is the best form of government? Monarchy? Like the middle east or astrocracy which I don't think exists anymore, or democratic which most of the countries claim to be!
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    May 15, 2006, 05:46 AM
    Democracy gets my vote!
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    May 15, 2006, 05:59 AM
    Aristocracies still exist in England and Monaco for example. They are watered down from medieval days but they still exist. Aristocracies are not really a form of government but a social caste system.

    The answer to your question depends on defining "best". The most efficient form of government is a totalitarian regime. A dictator is not bound by anyone else in making decisions. So things can get done more quickly and efficiently. But a totalitarian regime is too often oppressive. When in the hands of a benevolent dictator that puts the needs of the people first, it can be the best form of government.

    The least efficient is a democracy. The time needed get the will of the people makes the government slow moving and unable to respond quickly to issues.

    A republic (which is what the US is, we are not a democracy) helps make things more efficient by putting the power into the hands of a small group who can make the decisions more quickly. But it can still be unwieldy. A federated republic (again what the US is) helps this by introducing an executive empowered to make the quick decisions sometimes needed. But, here again, you are concentrating power into one person which can lead to abuses (ala George W Bush).

    Many different systems of government have their own advantages and disadvantages. I believe the US has come up with the best compromise employing a triumvirate (Executive, Legislative, Judicial) that can act as checks and balances to prevent the gross abuse of power.
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    May 15, 2006, 06:24 AM
    My vote goes to Democracy, too.
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    May 15, 2006, 07:54 AM
    I agree with Scott in defining the word "best". It can situational, for example in my house the best form of government is oligarchy.
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    May 15, 2006, 08:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    I agree with Scott in defining the word "best". It can situational, for example in my house the best form of government is oligarchy.
    :)
    In my house it's a benevolent dictatorship! ;)
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    May 15, 2006, 08:18 AM
    Definitely a dictatorship.Now I can't stop to chat,as I've been ordered to cook the tea. :D
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    May 15, 2006, 08:18 AM
    In my house it is a Kingdom and I serve the Queen :)
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    May 15, 2006, 04:29 PM
    If I could be the king, I would think that is great, since I can't, a republic is the best. ( that is what the US is a republic)
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    May 15, 2006, 08:31 PM
    I'll ask my wife and get back to you on that!:cool: :confused:
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    May 15, 2006, 09:06 PM
    I like bananas... how about a Banana Republic? ;)
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    May 18, 2006, 04:15 AM
    What do you'll think of monarchy? Im for the monarchy in the middle east, its produced stability and security the locals love there kings who usually are very benvolent and put the needs of the people first.
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    May 18, 2006, 04:23 AM
    I think the best government would to be one please its people not its own pockets and inetersts..
    The new right. Imperium Europa. Democratic but cares for his country and people, not the outsider like the European Union.
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    May 18, 2006, 06:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by aaras
    What do youll think of monarchy? Im for the monarchy in the middle east, its produced stability and security the locals love there kings who usualy are very benvolent and put the needs of the ppl first.
    There are several problems with a monarchy. When you have a capable, caring and benevolent monarch then it can work well. The problem is, too often, the monarch is none of those things. The current monarch is based on ancestry not capability. Since a monarchy is often from a limited gene pool, the possibility of capability is often reduced. Since monarchs are often not accountable, there is too often temptation to abuse their power. Even with a monarch that does right by the people, there is often a lot of abuse. Monarchs tend to live lavishly. Even if their lifestyle is not at the expense of the people, it does take something away from them.
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    May 18, 2006, 06:34 AM
    RickJ this is 1 thread I'm not getting notifications that I'm subscribed to it
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    May 18, 2006, 06:42 AM
    A republic has the potential to solve a lot of problems, but you have to build a fire under the butts of those that get elected to get them to do something. Now if more people participated and kept a little pressure on elected officials to serve the people maybe they'd do their job and we would be better off. :cool: :eek:
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    May 18, 2006, 06:43 AM
    Viva Emperium Europa. ;)
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    May 18, 2006, 06:46 AM
    I'll let you know what my kids tell me to say in a little bit, got to go cook them breakfast right now.

    :p
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    May 18, 2006, 06:51 AM
    The problem (with a republic) is that once a candidate is elected there is very little incentive for them to do the right thing for the duration of their term. They can stay in office and do a so so job and chances are they'd get re-elected again because they're the incumbent. What is needed is a system that holds them accountable if they don't do the right thing and doesn't necessarily guarantee them office for the full term. i.e. today it is easy for them to get into office and very hard to get them out. We need a system where it is very hard for them to get into office and very easy for them to be kicked out. Only then will there be an incentive to keep them in office and for them to do the right thing for the people (vs. the corporations).

    Casey

    P.S. rickj... I too am not getting notifications of posts (only one notice so far when several people have actually posted to this topic).
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    May 18, 2006, 02:59 PM
    Well I'm armenian and at one time we fell under soviet union(comunist) lots of elderly people that I talked to said they liked it comunizm better then democracy, me? I think all kinds of goverments are kurupt so...

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