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    Jun 24, 2008, 04:16 PM
    Toilet Flapper
    The toilet flapper closer too soon (as soon as you release the lever). It is a new flapper; any suggestions?
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    Jun 24, 2008, 04:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lobtuf
    The toilet flapper closer too soon (as soon as you release the lever). It is a new flapper; any suggestions?
    With the flapper seated the linkage wants to have 1/4" of play. Too much play and the flapper doesn't get pulled back enough giving you a short flush. Too tight and it lets water seep past the flapper. I adjust the chain by the link and if it needs fine tuning, I bend the flush lever rod a bit untill I have the desired play in the linkage. One more thing about a flapper. you will see where the old flapper hooks onto the base of the white overflow tube. On a older type with no hooks the flapper has a ring that slips down over the overflow tube to the seat. If your tank has hooks, take a sharp knife or scissors and cut the neoprene ring off on the marks provided and hook the flapper on the hooks. Leaving the ring on will interfere with the flush. The water level in your tank should be 3/8 to 1/2" below the top of the overflow tube when the tank's filled. And the little tube wants to run from the ballcock and connect to the white overflow tube.. m good mluck, Tom
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    Jun 24, 2008, 05:46 PM
    Hi Lobtub,

    Tom have stated very well, for more info click on the link below, Thanks.
    John

    Replace The Toilet Fill Valve, Flush Valve Or Flapper
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    Jun 24, 2008, 08:50 PM
    Or go to home depot and buy a flapper that has an adjustment that allows the flapper to stay open for a longer period.
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    Jun 24, 2008, 08:56 PM
    This is the first time that I hear about flappers with adjustment, who makes them.
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    Jun 24, 2008, 08:59 PM
    lobtuf,

    If you follow Tom's instruction you will fine he is the expert we all should listen to him, Thank.

    John
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    Jun 25, 2008, 05:31 AM
    I don't know the manufacturer but I know they sell them at home depot. I might have one in the garage. I will check the brand for you...
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    Jun 25, 2008, 05:38 AM
    If it a new flapper you don't need to buy a new one follow TOM's instruction or use on the link that poste #3, Thanks and good luck.
    John
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    Jun 25, 2008, 05:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by afaroo
    This is the first time that I hear about flappers with adjustment, who makes them.
    Korky makes them,(see image) Check them out at Amazon.com: Lavelle #16BP Korky 1.6 Adjustable Flapper: Home Improvement
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    Jun 25, 2008, 05:52 AM
    Thanks it be good to know.

    John
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    Jun 25, 2008, 05:56 AM
    Thanks Tom,

    They call this adjustable because you can cut the ring, or there is something else to it, also I would like the link below with you all, thanks.

    John,

    How a Toilet Works
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    Jun 25, 2008, 06:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by afaroo
    Thanks Tom,

    They call this adjustable because you can cut the ring, or there is some thing else to it, also I would like the link below with you all, thanks.

    John,

    How a Toilet Works
    Thanks for the link John. I've copied and saved it. Here's your answer about adjustable flappers.
    Adjustable toilet tank valve to regulate flush water volume Document Type and Number:United States Patent 5390375
    Abstract:A flapper valve for sealing the discharge outlet in a water tank and for regulating the quantity of water discharged during each flush by reducing the buoyancy of the flapper valve through water inflow into the flapper during flushing. The pivotally mounted flapper has an upper body section including an integral soft annular sealing flange and a downwardly depending body member. A cap is insertable at the lower ends of the side wall and defines a water inflow aperture therein. The cap is of a relatively rigid material and serves to support the buoyancy chamber formed by the upper body portion and the end cap against deformation under operating conditions. The cap may be provided with a valve disk for selective registry with one of multiple apertures to regulate the water inflow into the cone as a function of the dimension of the aperture selected in registry with the opening. Regards, tom
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    Jun 25, 2008, 06:29 AM
    Hello Tom,

    Thanks for the detail info it is great and I am really learning things from you on a daily bases.

    Best Regards,
    John

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