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    mooredads Posts: 4, Reputation: 1
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    Jul 30, 2006, 09:30 AM
    Toilet , 4" pvc to 3" cast
    I have a home with a basement and problems with a toilet on the first floor.
    I had to repair the floor because the old cast flange was leaking. I cut out
    The flange and around 4 foot of old cast 3" pipe. I repaired the floor and used
    a 4" pvc flange and 4" pvc pipe with a 4"to3" rubber boot to connect to the old 3" cast pipe. I thought by going with bigger pipe from the toilet to the old 3" would provide better flow. The toilet flushed great for about a month and a half. Now it only goes down about every 5 flushes.

    Sould I have used 3" to 3" ? I do have small kids that might have put something in the toilet. Not sure.

    Please HELP. Thanks
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    Jul 30, 2006, 10:35 AM
    "Sould I have used 3" to 3" ? I do have small kids that might have put something in the toilet. Not sure"
    I can see nothing wrong with increasing to 4" unless the rubber boot has developed a sag that solids can build up behind. This is why I recommend a No-Hub Band,(see image) in place of a Fernco Rubber Coupling. It makes the line more ridgid and prevents sag.
    To check the bowl to see if the kids dropped something down into it take a double handful of TP and flush it down. If the toilet backs up then the bowl will need to be augered out to remove the clog. Good luck Tom
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    mooredads Posts: 4, Reputation: 1
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    Jul 30, 2006, 01:18 PM
    Thanks Speedball.

    I am using a 4" to 3" rubber boot. It is to thick and short to have a sag. There is a section on it that might cause a blokage from going to 4 to 3.

    It is an old Toilet. It would not hurt if I replace it. I will replace it and go from there.

    Thanks Again Steve
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    Jul 30, 2006, 05:04 PM
    If its an old toilet you may have mineral deposits built up in the trap and in the jets. You may try augering out the trap and taking a coat hanger and clean out the jets in the bottom of the toilet and the small jets under the rim of the toilet bowl. Also if it's a old toilet it probably is a 3.5 gallon flush verses the 1.6 gallon flush that they sell these days. I don't know how tom feels about the 1.6 gallon flush toilets but I do not like them. If I were you I would try to fix the old one but that is just my opinion.
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    mooredads Posts: 4, Reputation: 1
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    Aug 2, 2006, 01:27 PM

    I wanted a new Toilet but I do see the advantage of the older Toilets.

    More water would flush further down the drain.

    Thanks again Steve

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