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    vydra Posts: 1, Reputation: 1
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    Jul 10, 2010, 07:51 AM
    Symmons Temptrol: Repair or Replace
    Tried to install a new trim kit on a 20 year old Symmons Temptrol shower/tub valve, but broke the end off the spindle (TA-10).

    Currently debating on the overall benefits of
    - repairing the old Temptrol (new spindle, maybe need new washers and/or seals)
    - replace with new unit (which involves getting into the wall). Will be replacing the tile anyway at some point.

    How well do these valves age?

    If they age poorly, I'd be inclined to replace the whole thing, since I plan to replace the tile anyway. If they age well, and rebuilds aren't so difficult or require specialized tools, I'd just rebuild.

    Thanks,
    -v
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    Jul 10, 2010, 09:10 AM

    I would suggest to stick with the same faucet replace the spindle and you be Ok.

    Replacing the whole faucet will cost you more money and more time, all faucets are reliable time to time you need to replace the cartridges, seals, or the spindles like this one, this is my opinion but wait what other experts recommends, Thanks.

    John
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    Jul 10, 2010, 03:11 PM

    Vydra, John is correct in his response to your question...

    My take is as follows: It depends what condition the valve and trim are in. If you don't like the older trim style, replace the valve and you can use more modern trim. It is not a big deal to replace it especially if you have access from behind ( like closet, hallway wall etc ).

    Good luck with your project... Milo
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    Jul 11, 2010, 08:29 AM

    Hi all:

    Symmons ages great! The only issue is that with the older valves when you replace the TA-10 spindle assembly you'll also need to replace the cold and the hot seats as well... ;) While you are at it replace the diverter spindle as well and the valve will be brand new.

    The nice thing about this valve is that once all the parts are removed and then replaced there is just a simple brass body shell left. As long as the body of the valve is in good shape, and it always is, you just replace the parts and you have a new valve that will last another 10-15 years... promise!

    You'll need special tools to remove the seats (see image)... not expensive and sold everywhere.

    That all being said, if you can access the pipes from behind through an access panel it will definitely be cheaper to replace the entire valve IF you are doing all the work yourself... ;)

    Good luck!

    Mark
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