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    May 23, 2008, 12:27 PM
    Standard toilet rough in
    We have hit a snag in our bathroom remodel. Our contractor installed the flange at the standard 12" wall to center of flange distance, but an installed toilet sits 2-3" from the wall. We have had 3 different toilets in the room to try to figure out what is going on. They are all "standard" toilets (Kohler/American Standard brands), but they do not fit properly. We finally found a toilet that actually measures 12" from the center of the hole to the back of the tank but it was an older, cheaper, discontinued model. We are wondering if the manufacturers have redesigned newer toilets to sit further from the wall? Anybody have an explanation? The contractor and 2 home improvement stores are stumped.
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    May 23, 2008, 12:31 PM
    Hey Jmcd:

    Nope.. I have been noticing this same trend of being farther from the wall then they used to be.

    Especially TOTO and some American standard toilets.

    All I can recommend is for you to go to a SHOWROOM and measure the 12" rough toilets in place against the wall...there will be some that work right. OR...

    check out a 14" rough toilet of the same toilets that have been short for 12"... maybe one of these will also be short on 14 and maybe.. just maybe will work for you.

    Otherwise, you are kind of stuck with this... and we as plumbers have to start getting better specification sheets from our manufacturers!

    Hope that helped some... MARK

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    May 23, 2008, 01:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by massplumber2008
    Hey Jmcd:

    Nope..I have been noticing this same trend of being farther from the wall then they used to be.

    Especially TOTO and some American standard toilets.

    All I can recommend is for you to go to a SHOWROOM and measure the 12" rough toilets in place against the wall...there will be some that work right. OR...

    check out a 14" rough toilet of the same toilets that have been short for 12"....maybe one of these will also be short on 14 and maybe ..just maybe will work for you.

    Otherwise, you are kinda stuck with this...and we as plumbers have to start getting better specification sheets from our manufacturers!!

    Hope that helped some...MARK

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    Well, it doesn't change the situation... but at least I have confirmation that we are not crazy as has been implied by some staff at unnamed home improvement stores! Thanks for the reply.
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    May 24, 2008, 08:30 AM
    Hello jmcd,

    I would double check and make sure that the toilet or the tank isn't made for a 10" roughin.
    theres been a few times that I have received a toilet or tank for a 10" rough, instead of the standard 12" rough. Good luck
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