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    Mar 19, 2005, 08:32 AM
    Moving a vent pipe
    I recently took out a wall that was part of a closet to make room for a double sink in the bathroom. The Vent pipe 3" was in the wall. I cut it at the floor , put a 90 to the left , went over about 2 feet then another 90 up through the ceiling into the attic where I went at a 45 to the right then another 45 three feet from that to go back out the roof. I have the bottom 2 foot straight piece on a slight angle.

    Since I did this about 3 weeks ago , I just noticed the toilets are not flushing all the water down very well. I do have 3 kids and they use both toilets upstairs and downstairs and it may just be a coinsidence to me just doing the pipe. But would moving the vent in a configuration like that cause me to have less outside airpreassure to push the water down the drains ? All the other drains , kitchen , shower , bath , lav seem fine.

    I did use a tiolet snake about 4 foot long on the downstairs toilet and didn't see anything on the end when I pulled it out. There is a cleanout in the downstairs in the corner of the garage , maybe I should pour something down that or snake it ? Or should I try some kind of drain cleaner on the upstairs toilet first. :confused:
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    Mar 19, 2005, 09:19 AM
    Moving a vent pipe
    Quote Originally Posted by VampNslayer
    I recently took out a wall that was part of a closet to make room for a double sink in the bathroom. The Vent pipe 3" was in the wall. I cut it at the floor , put a 90 to the left , went over about 2 feet then another 90 up through the cieling into the attic where I went at a 45 to the right then another 45 three feet from that to go back out the roof. I have the bottom 2 foot straight piece on a slight angle.

    Since I did this about 3 weeks ago , I just noticed the toilets are not flushing all the water down very well. I do have 3 kids and they use both toilets upstairs and downstairs and it may just be a coinsidence to me just doing the pipe. But would moving the vent in a configuration like that cause me to have less outside airpreassure to push the water down the drains ? All the other drains , kitchen , shower , bath , lav seem fine.

    I did use a tiolet snake about 4 foot long on the downstairs toilet and didn't see anything on the end when I pulled it out. There is a cleanout in the downstairs in the corner of the garage , maybe I should pour somthing down that or snake it ? Or should I try some kind of drain cleaner on the upstairs toilet first. :confused:
    I see nothing in your explanation or picture that would cause your vent to change a thing. Did you cut a hole in the roof or revent back into a existing vent? Did this happen to both toilets at the same time you changed the vent or some time later? How do your toilets act when flushed? Do they fill up swirl around and then drain down slowly leaving solids behind? Are there any "gurgles" or "bubbles" when they are flushed? Let me know and I'l get back to you. Regards, Tom
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    Mar 19, 2005, 11:40 AM
    The vent pipe goes back into the attic and re connects up into the roof where I cut it off and vents outside. It's just re routed left , up , then right and back up through the original hole in the roof.

    THe toilets flush solids and it swirls very slowly and the water level in the bowls goes down very slow and sometimes it goes all out and gurgles , most times it only goes down about half way but all solids and stuff do go out. The downstairs toilet did it about a week after I moved the pipe and overflowed one time. I usually send my son downstairs to crap ( HUGE STUFF FoR A 6 year old , he waits a week to go ! LOL ) that way if it overflows it's on cement floor. He did clog the other one upstairs just this past week and now they both flush slow. I got a tiolet auger I used on the downstairs one , but it still does the slow flush.

    Funny , I'm a Plumbing specialist at Lowe's and I can't figure this out LOL. I've only been doing that job for 4 months though and before that only ripped out a few bathrooms or replaced faucets and such. Now I'm changing half the plumbing in my house LOL . I put a new kitchen sink in , disposer , faucet and new S trap . Replaced the shower Valve with a pressure balanced one and now getting ready to put the double vanity in.

    Thanks for your fast response. I'm sure with being a plumbing specialist at Lowe's , I'll stop back here now and then to see what's going on so I learn more to do my job.

    Vamp
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    Mar 19, 2005, 12:06 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by VampNslayer
    The vent pipe goes back into the attic and re connects up into the roof where I cut it off and vents outside. It's just re routed left , up , then right and back up through the original hole in the roof.

    THe toilets flush solids and it swirls very slowly and the water level in the bowls goes down very slow and sometimes it goes all out and gurgles , most times it only goes down about half way but all solids and stuff do go out. The downstairs toilet did it about a week after I moved the pipe and overflowed one time. I ususally send my son downstairs to crap ( HUGE STUFF FoR A 6 year old , he waits a week to go ! LOL ) that way if it overflows it's on cement floor. He did clog the other one upstairs just this past week and now they both flush slow. I got a tiolet auger I used on the downstairs one , but it still does the slow flush.

    Funny , I'm a Plumbing specialist at LOWES and I can't figure this out LOL. I've only been doing that job for 4 months though and before that only ripped out a few bathrooms or replaced faucets and such. Now I'm changing half the plumbing in my house LOL . I put a new kitchen sink in , disposer , faucet and new S trap . Replaced the shower Valve with a pressure balanced one and now getting ready to put the double vanity in.

    Thanks for your fast response. I'm sure with being a plumbing specialist at Lowes , I'll stop back here now and then to see whats going on so I learn more to do my job.

    Vamp

    Hi Vamp,
    The closet auger isn't going to help. You have a partial clog further down in the main. Rent a sewer machine and go down the vent that services the downstairs toilet. Or if you have a downstairs clean out go through that. Put out enough cable to get out to the clog and test by flushing both toilels at the same time. Regards, tom
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    Mar 19, 2005, 12:45 PM
    Well , I guess that's better than rebuilding the wall and putting the old vent pipe back in where it was and canceling my $450 sink that there custom making 77" long for the custom vanity I'm about to start building ! Now I have to see where to rent one. What about putting drain cleaners in ? I really do think an power auger would be best , but try the easy stuff first , you know.

    Thanks for you help .

    Vamp

    More pics of project.



    After wall is gone and pipe moved , new med cabs in the wall and new lights.

    http://img9.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img9&i...cp043610te.jpg
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    Mar 19, 2005, 03:16 PM
    I am no fan of using harsh chemicals in a drainage system. Most of the time you're just wasting your money. United Rent All has sewer machines. Rent a Ridgid K-60 or equivalent. Use a auger tip. Good luck, Tom

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