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    Jul 14, 2008, 07:55 AM
    Why do we give speciffic people "Special Treatment", does it work?
    Now first off, I'm not saying that these people are bad, wrong, or unacceptable. I'm not saying people should stop helping these people but, I'm saying if we might realize that we are all equal and that we are one of the same, maybe we could learn to get along and work together.

    I understand that people in these "groups/ sterio types" generally have problems and are "looked down upon", however, these people are no differnet from any one else. I know we are trying to help them but we keep giving "special treatment" to them. This does not seem to help. We are only futhering the division of our race, creating a barrier to which makes some feel inferior, and others feel that that is true. IT IS NOT! We are all capable, now of course I'm not talking about people with disabilities, or illnesses, and yes there are those people who do need some help, guidance, and safety. It seems that we are enforcing the behavior of being helpless, or infierior. We, reward them in a way for not being able, or not willing to be able. True, there are horrible events that do happen to people, and we all handle things differently, but I was hoping we could try to learn to help these people see the potetial they possess.

    Now don't go telling me I'm this or that, I'm just wondering if there isn't a better way? I believe there is. I don't know though.
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    Jul 14, 2008, 08:32 AM
    Many people do have a sense of entitlement thinking everybody owes them and they do not try to better themselves but too there are people like me that WANT to better their life but have no idea HOW to. Like I am good at many things but since I am in the circumstances I am in life people do not take me serious and hire the person that has a better status in life.
    I see that happen a lot in life hire the friends niece because she is who she is rather than her talents. So for me it is not needing to recognize the potential I possess but the where do you go from here.
    It is harder than people realize to just go from their situation to better.
    They say it takes money to make money and without the resources sometimes people are just left behind.
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    Jul 18, 2008, 08:06 AM
    Who are... THESE PEOPLE?
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    Jul 18, 2008, 11:14 AM
    Indeed, well. As nohelp4u said, there are those who think they are entitled to some kind of special pay or treatment, simply because of what they went through, and those who don't. It is a kind of general question, and I'm sure if I said what I had observed I'd be call many very rude things, but I'll try to explain.

    I've seen people, like natives (I'm from canada.), african/ north american, immigrants, abused women, and abused children (I can understand for them, on account they are still children.) who get money from the government, or what ever for their problems. Now no offence I do know that some people are mentally ill, and physically disabled but some get better or are fine and just keep going on the aid of society. I for one have bin in and out of jobs like nothing, and I know it's because I've depression of some sort. I've tried to get help, and I'm going to doctors, psychiatrists, getting as much help as possible. I've even taken it upon myself to research it, and try to find my own answers so as to help the professionals know more. I have asked to be put on E.I. but they won't give it to me, which I understand they can't help every one, but I can't seem to get a job that will alow me to go to school and work, making enough money, even with a student loan, to survive.
    I just want to further myself, and I have even learned to read better and try different meds as prescribed by doctors and psychs, and what not, even counseling and stuff, but I never can seem to get it together and hold it for more then a year. I just get depressed that I'm still where I was when I started and get more angry/ frustrated and feel more hopeless.
    I've seen these people every where, all kinds of "ethnic" groups. For me there is only one race, though I've bin raised in a kind of narrow minded way, so as to see natives and a few others as a general wast of space. I have learned to open my eyes and see them better and understand them to be just as human and important as me. We are all one of the same so why does every one seem to think that because of their pain they deserve special treatment from the rest of us with problems, just as painful and disabling.
    This may sound rude, but the past is the past, what our ancestors did was definitely not cool, and it was horrible, true. But we can't fix that, all we can do is make things work for the here the now, but things won't work if every one keeps demanding that they be compensated for their past. "That their way of life be preserved" Again no offence but our race has evolved and we carry firepower unlike the old days and it's not how it was done in those days so why is it now, if you're trying to preserve a way of life, shouldn't you live it, or at least do as your ancestors did? That means no cars/ trucks or guns/ mechanical devices for hunting fishing, or what ever, but your own sweat and blood. And shouldnt' everyone be permitted to participate. I realize the "white man" didn't let them join in on every thing and that's what this is all about, equality, but why are they now doing to us, the people more understanding and compassionate to their plight/pain/suffering, what our founding fathers/mothers did to their forbearers. They are now being prejudice and thus, splitting our society up, and causing great turmoil. We are all HUMAN BEINGS!! NOT, blacks, whites, natives, mexican, spanish, asian or other wise, that's just where we came from, but that is not who we are.

    I may have picked on natives there but that is not the only people that do this, even the french canadian and whites and every body are doing it, but they are abusing the system, how very inhumane. I just want to go to school, get an education, and help people, but first I have to help myself, and I need a little help form some where, but can't seem to find it. And by help I mean opportunity.

    Please do tell me if I'm way off the line here. Peace be with you all.
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    Jul 18, 2008, 11:24 AM
    I pretty much understand where you are coming from and as a poor person on and off welfare, sect 8 and other programs for much of the past 20 years I see what you are saying first hand. A lot of it has to do with kids having kids and then taking their frustrations out on their kids because they no longer have their freedom. Then too they get everything handed to them so it means nothing to them to throw away a $600. Stereo and go buy a $900. One.
    They don't think twice about it.
    But to feel a race or ethnicity group is a waste of space I can not agree with because many people of every race has some value.
    I live in the hood and I know more white alcoholics that live pay check to pay check and have no motivation than the blacks. I also know more white mothers that slap their toddlers around too.
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    Jul 18, 2008, 11:40 AM
    That is true, I totally agree, ethniciy, and race are not what make a person. I guess I'm just frustrated and want to point a finger, but really I can only point it at myself. They say, "where there is a will there is a way." I just need to focuse on building my will and creating a way I guess. Thanks though.

    Peace be with you.
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    Jul 18, 2008, 11:41 AM
    I hear you. That is where I am at AND on the bottom of the barrel to boot!
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    Jul 18, 2008, 11:47 AM
    So what can we do to change this? It has to start with each one of us. Are there things you can do in your own community to begin to change and improve people's attitudes toward others? To be more interested in helping themselves which of course will improve how they think of themselves (and how others think of them)?

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