[Dark_crow]

Will we simply end up with warring Islamic democracies hell bent on our destruction?

Can we win a war to defeat “terrorism” and “Islamofascism” while preserving traditional and historical Islam with its full ideological panoply intact?

[N0help4u]

I have a feeling that the people who can now freely walk the streets of Iraq think we win a war to defeat “terrorism” and “Islamofascism” while preserving traditional and historical Islam with its full ideological panoply intact

[Dark_crow]

What evidence is there that the democratic elections in the Palestine Territories bringing Hamas to power have diminished their religious ideology built on dominating the world in the here and now?

By the same token what evidence is there that the democratic elections in Iraq diminished their religious ideology built on dominating the world in the here and now?

That some Iraqis are happy to see Saddam gone is not proof; all Iraqis are not Islamist, many are Christian and non-believers.

[Fr_Chuck]

Yes, since traditional Islam is not terrorists.

[Dark_crow]

Of course not, but that is not the question in the OP.

What is “Traditional Islam?”


The facts show that after Muhammad gained power in Medina he organized marauding bands to attack the caravans of rival cities and that the first three were wholly unsuccessful. After he became a power in Medina, to which city he had fled as a religious refugee from Mecca, he authorized the execution of his critics; most notorious example being his execution of the Jewish tribe of Koraiza, some 700 men being beheaded in the market place from morning until night. True, these Jews had disaffected, but the religious motive is seen in that they were offered full pardon if they would give up their Judaism for Islam. Not one of them accepted this offer, although their failing to do so meant not only death for themselves but the selling of their wives and little ones into slavery.