I have been debating whether to post this for a while now, please understand that my intention IS NOT to get at men so please don't take what I have to say to heart, it is just my thoughts, and I would appreciate your thoughs, good or bad...

Me and my partner have always been open with each other communication wise, we have this thing between us... "no secrets=no s**t"

Wayne was on his computer one day and I was a little bored, I was on the homepage of my isp and I noticed they had a chatroom, I created an account, and long story short a year later I still go there. Wayne goes there too, mostly at the weekend when we are having a drink or three, and we will go in and chat to the various people we have gotten to know.

We have a laugh with them, they know us by name, and they also know that we love each other and that we are both off limits. Neither me or wayne go into this room to meet/cheat... just to chat to the people we know...

Now here's to my question...

You get what's known as a p2p (person to person chat) and basically all you get is guys asking what you are wearing, what do you look like, will you phone me when my wife goes to work, etc etc..

Some of the things these men have said, some of the things they have asked for, what they are looking for etc when their wife is out or at work, whatever the case may be.
One guy came over saying that his wife was asleep upstairs and he was horny, I told him fantastic, go wake your woman and have a good time, he said no he needed fresh p***y, another guy told me he had been married for 25 years but regulally came into this room if his wife went away for the weekend, then he turned around and said that he loved her with all his heart!

As I said I was debating if I should post this, then tonight I get another message and it promted me to write this, he asked me for advice, I obliged, he told me his wife had brought a girl home from work, as the girl had been kicked out @ home (she is 18), his wife felt sorry for this girl and told her she could stay.
He asked me when he should make a move on this girl as she was "hot", I told him he couldn't have much love for his wife if he did make a move, I told him to choose what is more important to him, his 18 year marriage, or a quicky with a teenager, his reply was that he couldn't make his mind up what was most important to him.

As a woman, its hard enough thinking that all men cheat, all men are the same, I know they are not, but for us girls its hard enough to find a man that isn't going to rip your heart out by sleeping around, and it is evident that this is going on day in day out when these men are supposed to love their women.

I guess I'm looking for more of a male perspective on this, but the gals are welcome to answer too... guys do you do this when you are with someone? Have you done it? If so why? Why get sexual kicks from words on a screen when your wife/girlfriend is right there? How do you justify being in a chatroom for FIVE hours trying to get some woman to get you off when more often than not the wife is sleeping upstairs? Can you really not last 2 weeks if your wife goes on business?

As I say, I'm not getting at you guys, I know that you are not all the same, its just something that has been bugging me for a year now and I would like some differing oppinions on this... by the way I didn't put this in the forum as the red boxes probably would have gone through the roof lol... thanks people... fix.

Please note... I have to add, this room isn't a sex room/hook up room in any way, it is a room for 18 and over, no mention of sex whatsoever..

I blame technology, fix. Being older, I remember when NOT having all this way of communication... and everyone had normal lives! Don't get me wrong, I think the WWW is fantastic. But I think it's created monsters. All the pervs lurking around inside these men's minds, made it too easy to come out!
Take me back to my growing up years anyday! Better yet, I'd like to be at my dad's age by now.
By the way, how you doing, kid? It's good to hear your thoughts.

Hey kitch I'm doing good thanks, how was your birthday?.

I agree the internet is partly to blame, its all too easy these days.. to say it one way, if I wanted to I could probably have a one night stand arranged in say under an hour, that's not me being big headed, its just so easy these days.

I don't know, maybe its just me being a woman, and yeah in a way it has entered my head that I don't want to be one of those women who have their partner/hubby whatever downstairs doing this... its like their marriages mean absolutley nothing whilst they are in there... just made me think that's all..
I'm 26, some of these guys have been married longer than I have been alive, yet as soon as they are alone it means nothing, I'm not talking about porn, that's a different story, I don't know, nothing seams to mean much these days.
I know what you mean, my grandparents have been married for 47 years, had four children and are still going storng, the same with my partners parents, those days seem to be gone, and its being replaced by something hollow.. no emotion anymore, just seems to be people wondering where their next orgasm will come from...

... birthday?. ah, just another one bites the dust. But the wife made me feel great. She's a goodin'. You should see the size of my tea cup now!
Spot on what you said. Morals... what morals.

lolol@tea cup haha

Like your flag Kitch.

I am a male. I believe that it all boils down to maturity and self control. I freely admit that there are times I am driving down the road and I see a beautiful young lady walking along and I will look. I might even wonder what she might be like to be with. However, I have learned to track the consequences of my actions before I take any action. I am a Christian so I may look at life differently than a non-Christian male. I'm no better. I still have sin nature, but I carry with me a belief that I can overcome anything if I set my heart to it and I trust in Jesus Christ my saviour. All I do when I begin to "wander" is think of my wife and how much pain it would cause her if I ever cheated on her. She's not perfect but I love her a lot. She's my best friend. We have been through a lot together. There was a time that we were both practicing alcoholics and when our alcoholism had both of our backs against the wall, we both sobered up and things have never been better between us. Our relationship is based on pure trust. Pure trust. Pure trust. No honesty and trust/no relationship. Know honesty and trust/know relationship.

Reading back over my initial post it became apparent that I sound like some kind of woman's rights activist lol I really didn't want it to sound like that.. you know that thing that sounds so much better in your head?

When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. There are a lot of dogs out there and you are mingling with them. Does it really surprise you that they are that way. Not every one is like that so if you switch to a more Christian based chat room, well, end of the fleas.
As for his wife upstairs sleeping, might be or might not be.

When women do that to me what are you wearing an stuff, I usually tell the truth, cat pee, blood and pizza crust, and puppy poop.

There are so many ways for people to get hooked up, that more and more people are doing just that. Its easier than ever for perverts and dysfunctionals, to mix with the lonely and those looking for something. I guess if you can't think of better more positive ways to manage the time you have..?

Talaniman are you pointing your finger at me? Lmaooo

Heavens no?! Then I'd have four pointing back at me:D LOL!

Lmao good onya mate!
I have no problem at all admitting your a pervert and we are friends! One day I will come out of the pervert closet, but not now! Lol

:D lol!

He cracks me up! Lol