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    Nov 6, 2010, 11:06 AM
    The Octogon
    A shape is created in square ABCD as follows:
    A line goes from vertice A to the midpoint of BC and CD
    A line goes from vertice B to the midpoint of CD and DA
    A line goes from vertice C to the midpoint of DA and AB
    A line goes from vertice D to the midpoint of AB and BC
    (the resulting figure should look like a star)
    What is the ratio of the area of the octogon created in the center of square ABCD to square ABCD?
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    Nov 6, 2010, 12:24 PM

    Let's have some values. The sides of the square be 4 (a multiple of 2, just in case)

    From similar triangles, we get the red line as having a length of 1.

    From symmetry, we get the central broken blue line as having a length of 2.

    Hence, the side of one triangle in the octagon is 1.

    As you see, the octagon is a regular octagon and as such, if you divide it into 8 triangles with a vertex at the centre of the shape, you get each triangle with apex angle 45 degrees.

    Do you know the area of such a triangle?



    Hence the area of the octagon = area of 8 triangles =

    And the area of the square is 4 x 4 = 16.

    Ratio of areas =



    EDIT: Sorry, wrong assumption here. See post below.
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    Nov 6, 2010, 03:21 PM
    See here for a nice discussion on the topic:

    http://nrich.maths.org/561&part=solution
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    Nov 7, 2010, 09:51 AM
    Okay, the only reason I can find that makes my answer wrong is the assumption that the octagon is a regular octagon... which means that the sides of the triangles are not both 1.

    To get length of OP where P is the point passing through the diagonal of the square. And on one point in the octagon, I'll use the coordinate system.

    The diagonal has equation y = x.

    The line making the upper-right side is y = -2x + 1

    we get x = 1/3

    And hence, y = 1/3

    The length OP becomes

    Then, area of triangles become:



    And ratio becomes:

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