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    Oct 19, 2009, 08:04 PM
    Probability about a deck of cards. Confused!
    The question: Suppose that three cards are drawn from a deck of cards with replacement, what is the probability of getting one or more hearts?

    I think of the question as asking P(one heart or two hearts or three hearts), then I find P(one heart) and P(two heart) and finally P(three hearts), then add them up.

    Here's what I did:

    P(one heart) = (13/52)*(39/52)*(39/52)*3 (because the heart can appear as the second card or the third)
    P(two heart) = (13/52)*(13/52)*(39/52)*3 (similar reason)
    P(three heart) = (13/52)^3 * 3 (similar reason)

    and found ~0.61 chance of getting one or more hearts.

    Is that correct? I'm just not sure about what I did.

    Thank you!
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    Oct 19, 2009, 10:14 PM

    I made a probability tree.

    The tree came out to have 64 different suite combination, and only 37 of those combination had the correct suite.

    The odds then were

    37/64 or ~ 57.8 percent.
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    Oct 19, 2009, 11:07 PM
    You can also use the "binomial probability" form.



    Where

    Where x is the number of successes we want, n is the number trials, p is the chance of success, and q is the chance of failure.

    For this question we have

    P(1)+P(2)+P(3) (Because we want the odds of 1 heart, 2 hearts, and 3 hearts)

    x = 1.. 2... 3, n=3, p=0.25, q=0.75



    simplified we have



    And this also ends up being about 57.8 percent
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    Oct 20, 2009, 03:25 AM

    There is only 1 way to have three hearts so you should not have multiplied by three in calculating P(three heart)!
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    Oct 20, 2009, 04:27 AM

    Ok, my method:

    P(no heart) = (39/52)^3

    P(at least a heart) = 1 - (39/52)^3

    Shorter, simpler! :)
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    Oct 21, 2009, 12:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by kyva1929 View Post
    P(three heart) = (13/52)^3 * 3 (similar reason)
    My previous post was to point out the error in the above line of reasoning given in the original question, the * 3 part is incorrect as there is only one way to have three hearts. I did not mean that the question wanted a three of hearts. I used the same notation that kyva used.

    Nhatkiem please consider re rating my post as it is not incorrect!
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    Oct 21, 2009, 12:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by elscarta View Post
    My previous post was to point out the error in the above line of reasoning given in the original question, the * 3 part is incorrect as there is only one way to have three hearts. I did not mean that the question wanted a three of hearts. I used the same notation that kyva used.

    Nhatkiem please consider re rating my post as it is not incorrect!
    I see, sorry, you didn't quote what you were referring to, I thought you were talking about P(3) alone. Unfortunately it won't allow me to change the rating at this time.

    However I will try to track of your post in the future for rating when I am allowed to rate for you again.

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