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    Mar 3, 2009, 06:12 PM
    Autism/Asperger's syndrome
    I was wondering what are the symptoms and treatment options for Autism and Asperger's syndrome. Why are there so many more cases than there were 20 and 30 years ago?
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    Mar 3, 2009, 06:31 PM

    There are more people in the world, communication is so much better so we hear more about autism, diagnosis is tons better, autism has become better defined. For any kind of autism, the social factor is huge; autistic kids are basically loners. They are also very smart, especially in a savant way. Otherwise, there is a huge range of characteristics. For that reason, there's no one treatment plan. Early intervention is the best plan.
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    Mar 3, 2009, 06:47 PM
    Sounds a lot like one of my friends from school, he is very smart and hardworking and was always somewhat of a loner who didn't fit in with the "in crowd". He follows the same routine every day and always had unusual interests. He spends hours on the internet every day playing games. It's sad because he could be enjoying life so much more. I don't know if he has Asperger's or obsessive compulsive disorder or something else. He is nearly 36 and I hope he isn't too old for treatment. I wish I could help him.
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    Mar 3, 2009, 06:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    Sounds a lot like one of my friends from school, he is very smart and hardworking and was always somewhat of a loner who didn't fit in with the "in crowd". He follows the same routine every day and always had unusual interests. He spends hours on the internet every day playing games. It's sad because he could be enjoying life so much more. I don't know if he has Asperger's or obsessive compulsive disorder or something else. He is nearly 36 and I hope he isn't too old for treatment. I wish I could help him.
    My autistic son is 38 -- never too old for treatment.

    Does he want help? Does anyone beside you see he has a problem? Google autism and asperger's for characteristics and treatment ideas.
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    Mar 3, 2009, 07:04 PM
    Thanks for answering, I don't think he wants help and the only people who know are me and a few other school friends. I forgot to mention earlier, he has a pretty good job at a factory, but gambles away a lot of his earnings on video lottery terminals, I don't know if compulsive gambling is a sign of asperger's but it is troubling.
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    Mar 3, 2009, 07:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    Thanks for answering, I don't think he wants help and the only people who know are me and a few other school friends. I forgot to mention earlier, he has a pretty good job at a factory, but gambles away a lot of his earnings on video lottery terminals, I don't know if compulsive gambling is a sign of asperger's but it is troubling.
    You see him as not going anywhere with his life, like he's wasting his money and spinning his wheels. Does he have living parents?

    Years ago my son didn't want to get a job because it would cut into his free time. The gambling could be an OCD thing or preoccupation with one thing to the exclusion of others, plus lack of common sense.
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    Mar 3, 2009, 07:32 PM
    He doesn't have living parents or any relatives who talk to him. It's hard to tell if he has Asperger's, OCD or lack of common sense or all three. Him not wanting to change and not being able to help him is very frustrating for me and his other friends.
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    Mar 3, 2009, 08:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    He doesn't have living parents or any relatives who talk to him. It's hard to tell if he has Asperger's, OCD or lack of common sense or all three. Him not wanting to change and not being able to help him is very frustrating for me and his other friends.
    I know how hard it is (impossible!) to convince someone he needs help. If he continues to waste his money, could he end up homeless or hurting in some way? Maybe you could meet with a counselor who has a rep of working with OCD and even disabilities such as Asperger's to get some insight and ideas on what to say to him so he doesn't become his own worse enemy. If he trusts you, you might be halfway there. Of course, someone would have to continually check up on him to make sure he's doing well.
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    Jul 27, 2009, 07:50 AM

    They say that one in one hundred and fifty kids now have autism to some degree.
    I believe it is often the vaccines they are required to have. People say that can't be the cause because they were vaccinated BUT NOW kids are required to get three times more shots and as soon as they are born. There are exemption forms but very few people know about them.
    I really believe it is the shots because why do they start them at a couple weeks to a couple months old. If they didn't require them until 2 yrs old you would have a little better idea of their personality development. This way you never know.
    Also the autism support group in my area is headed by two women that have autistic kids and they said they hear it all the time as well as it happened with their kids. They said they all had a problem with the one shot in particular. Their babies developed a low grade fever within days of the shot and then they were never the same.
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    Jul 27, 2009, 08:41 AM
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    I really believe it is the shots because why do they start them at a couple weeks to a couple months old.
    I totally disagree. I think our awareness of autism is huge, and with terrific communication. My husband is high-functioning autistic, but that word was never used back in the '40s and '50s when he was a kid. He now looks at the list of autism "symptoms" and says, "Yup, that's me." When I was in grade school about the same time, kids were labeled slow or even stupid or weird. Now kids like that are said to be autistic or dyslexic or have OCD. We've got our labels down pat; we are able to diagnose everything.

    My "normal" son had a fever after his baby shots; my autistic son never did. Inoculations have nothing to do with autism. Autism covers a huge spectrum of behaviors, and, since we are so aware of autism now, it is easy to fit behaviors into the spectrum.
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    Jul 27, 2009, 08:44 AM

    I am not saying ALL autistism is a result of shots and I am sure many people with autism are highly functional but I am saying that I believe as well as many specialists do believe that a good percentage of autism is related to the vaccinations.

    The autism support group of Northern and Southern Allegheny chapters
    Dr winer
    Dr Ray
    Dr Len and Joe
    Dr Pompa
    And thousands more.
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    Jul 27, 2009, 08:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    I am not saying ALL autistism is a result of shots and I am sure many people with autism are highly functional but I am saying that I believe as well as many specialists do believe that a good percentage of autism is related to the vaccinations.
    I read recently where the medical community has completely tossed out the inoculation theory of autism.
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    Jul 27, 2009, 09:01 AM

    Yeah because it would mean a lot of court cases and losing money for not being able to vaccinate future kids.
    Read the list of ingredients in vaccinations
    Mercury is one of many

    The drug companies cover up a lot of issues because of the almighty dollar and what it would mean to their reputation.

    I can give you links if you want.

    Ever notice how they poo-poo certain supplements and then when they stand to gain from them they all of a sudden endorse them?
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    Jul 27, 2009, 09:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Yeah because it would mean a lot of court cases and losing money for not being able to vaccinate future kids.
    Read the list of ingredients in vaccinations
    Mercury is one of many

    The drug companies cover up a lot of issues because of the almighty dollar and what it would mean to their reputation.

    I can give you links if you want.

    ever notice how they poo-poo certain supplements and then when they stand to gain from them they all of a sudden endorse them?
    I'd fault food additives long before I would fault inoculations.
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    Jul 27, 2009, 09:10 AM

    I agree I fault them BOTH
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    Jul 27, 2009, 09:23 AM

    Here are just a few sites

    YouTube - Part 4: Mercury Toxicity & Autism

    YouTube - Part 1: The Vaccine-Autism Connection

    They basically say it is a genetic predisposition that causes some to not be able to naturally detox their system to remove the mercury and other substances because their system can't tolerate the shots making some more susceptible to adverse effects


    Your Body By God

    National Vaccine Information Center ? Vaccine Watch Dog
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    Aug 22, 2011, 03:38 PM
    I don't think he should be cured because its these types of things that make each and everyone different. Also there has been flimsy proof that autism can sometimes be caused by the M.M.R jab (measels, mumphs & rubela) I used to be a bit autistic and I had the M.M.R and I still show some sighns of autism and I think its all right one of my grandfathers friends sons became severely autistic directly after having the jab

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