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jon123 · Nov 11, 2009, 04:19 PM

It has been over a decade since I did work replacing 24" block tile, was wondering if there is anyone here who thinks there are easier or better options for a small kitchen ceiling I'm bidding on. Not sure what the going rate is but material + 360 per day okay?

sprtrmpcnsltng · Nov 11, 2009, 04:54 PM

Do you think it is an OK rate? Ultimately you have to decide what is your time worth. IF you can get a customer to pay you 9000 a day plus material would it make it a better or worse job? If you can provide the work for 360 plus material and be comfortable then do it. If it doesn't end up being worth while you will have updated your skills and knowledge base for the future.

FJM · Nov 11, 2009, 05:01 PM

An easer option in my opinion would be sheet rock it would not only look better. It can be easer to install with a simple lift

jon123 · Nov 11, 2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by FJM

an easer option in my opinion would be sheet rock it would not only look better. it can be easer to install with a simple lift

I'm not so sure if sheetrock is easier, the usual three coat spackling makes for additional appointments. As for replacing same demensional block tile, if the crown molds/furring strips already there are good to go, it would be replae as I go.. pull it down in a garbage pale and staple it up as I go. It is a small kitchen less than 200sq ft from what she said over the phone.. but now she wants to renovate the lighting.. lol.. I will need probably double the labor figure.. She supplies the materials.. I want her to pick up the tile and fixtures first. Than I will know what to charge. The garbage is extra 50 bucks if I got to take it away.

zippit · Nov 11, 2009, 05:27 PM

Sounds like your preparing to put your bid in based on the cost of material which is a safe bet,what's she wanting to do in the way of lighting,I always like the 6 inch drop squared,with fluorescent lights inside and a parabolic louver tile gold or silver tile

jon123 · Nov 11, 2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by sprtrmpcnsltng

Do you think it is an ok rate? Ultimately you have to decide what is your time worth. IF you can get a customer to pay you 9000 a day plus material would it make it a better or worse job? If you can provide the work for 360 plus material and be comfortable then do it. If it doesn't end up being worth while you will have updated your skills and knowledge base for the future.

I always keep that in the back of my mind when I work by the day. I have deductions annual liabilty insurance license fees advertising and tool expenses work truck etc. I am working cheaper because tis is the worse economy with so many on unemployment while the feds are raising taxes you asked so I answered , I take what I can get to stay busy and feel good I still have some freedom.. thank you jmho

jon123 · Nov 11, 2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by zippit

sounds like your preparing to put your bid in based on the cost of material which is a safe bet,whats she wanting to do in the way of lighting,I always like the 6 inch drop squared,with florescent lights inside and a parabolic louver tile gold or silver tile

She's saying individual globes in two new boxes off the existing box used now for track lighting.. I told her I'll wire two new ones but not doing any mains lol//i don't mind extra wiring a couple boxes and new fixtures, again, just wondering what the average six pack joe is getting per sq ft doing this ceiling work.

zippit · Nov 11, 2009, 05:39 PM

There is not enough of that out there to get a good price from someone else I would just take the cost of material and go times three should get you in the ball park<after taking off the cost if she buys the material>

jon123 · Nov 11, 2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by zippit

there is not enough of that out there to get a good price from someone else i would just take the cost of material and go times three should get you in the ball park<after taking off the cost if she buys the material>

You are right, I understand what you mean too , thanks for sharing

jon123 · Nov 11, 2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by zippit

sounds like your preparing to put your bid in based on the cost of material which is a safe bet,whats she wanting to do in the way of lighting,I always like the 6 inch drop squared,with florescent lights inside and a parabolic louver tile gold or silver tile

Are you suggesting a box for a florecsent fixture? Off the furring strips?. can not picture it.. in anycase, I'm not running walls or doing any major wiring.. it is coming off the same switch off two new blue boxes and 12 romex through a few ceiling joists.. anything else she can hire an electrian

zippit · Nov 12, 2009, 07:40 AM

I hear you
About the electrical
Yea it's a framed out box with the fixtures in it and you run the grid and mold inside the box with grid tiles,they look real nice

jon123 · Nov 13, 2009, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by zippit

I hear ya
about the electrical
yea its a framed out box with the fixtures in it and you run the grid and mold inside the box with grid tiles,they look real nice

I see what mean.. I went their for a free estimate, old 12x12 block tile is falling in places, I told her get or oick out the material and I will work at a minimum of 350.00 per day.. not sure about the existing cove as they are decades old so I explained the kitchen cabinets were 6 inches off the ceiling perimeter and that if I can save them it with wonder bar prying , I can reuse them and the project should go smooth.. otherwise additional materials and labor will be extra of coarse. She will let me know.