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    May 6, 2008, 01:41 PM
    What kind of wiring is shown on this bathroom fan?
    I am replacing the fan in the bathroom. I pulled new wire; but I am stuck with this Hunter diagram. I do not understand what the schematic means about "red switch 1" and "black switch 2"?! What kind of wire should this be?_ It shows a red/black cable only. Where do these go to? Do they go to a live switch or just a single throw. I believe the upper cable entering the box is coming from a switch that also goes right to the panel. Is that right? Sorry about the drawing, I could not cut and paste from the online manual. If it is easier to understand, here is the link to the online manual schematic. New Page 1

    It is Item "A14". My handiwork below:
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    May 6, 2008, 04:10 PM
    You could use 3 separate switches for each item or have 1 switch work Light and fan, and the other for night light.
    You don't have to use the night light.
    Light and fan could be switched together with 1 switch.
    You have several options.
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    May 7, 2008, 09:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by EdPDX
    I am replacing the fan in the bathroom. I pulled new wire; but I am stuck with this Hunter diagram. I do not understand what the schematic means about "red switch 1" and "black switch 2"?!? What kind of wire should this be?_ It shows a red/black cable only. Where do these go to? Do they go to a live switch or just a single throw. I believe the upper cable entering the box is coming from a switch that also goes right to the panel. Is that right? Sorry about the drawing, I could not cut and paste from the online manual. If it is easier to understand, here is the link to the online manual schematic. New Page 1

    It is Item "A14". My handiwork below:
    Stratmando, If I ever get out of here, I'm goin' to Statmando? I love it.

    I would like to have the nitelite on as it is a guest bathroom. What does the diagram mean? What is the cable that enters the box in the lower position? Where does it go- to a switch that is not powered? Why is no ground shown?

    Ed
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    May 7, 2008, 11:42 AM
    Okay, I'll take a shot at this one. This a terrible 1/2 drawing. What you are not being shown is the supply side of the wiring to the junction box in the ceiling.

    There should be a 14/2 or 12/2 wire (Black/White/bare) that runs from the power source to the ceiling opening. This pair will have the "Black" conductor always hot.

    Normally there is one fixture lead for the fan and one for the light. However on this package you need to use three wall switches loops, one for each circuit.

    BEFORE STARTING, OPEN THE CIRCUIT BEAKER THAT FEEDS THE SUPPLY CONDUCTOR!

    I would, pull a 14/3 and a 14/2 down to the switch opening on the wall.

    Pig tail both whites to the source black. Wrap a small amount of black tape to these White conductors to signify that they are now being used as ungrounded conductors (hot).

    At the ceiling, I would connect the Black 14/3 (return from Bsw2 to the fixtures "Light black conductor" indicated fixture wire. I would connect the Red conductor to Rsw1 conductor from the night light fixture wire.

    Using the 14/2 Black wire I would connect that to the Fan fixture conductor wire.

    Lastly, I would pigtail the White from the supply cable to the two white fixture neutral conductors.

    *****************************


    At the wall, (14/2) white wire (add a small wrapping of black tape) feed the Bsw1 switch (connect to the bottom terminal) the matching black wire connects to the top of the same sw terminal.

    The 14/3 cable:

    A) Wrap a small amount of black tape to the White conductor.
    B) Cut two lengths of Black conductor, long enough to reach Bsw2 and Rsw1 lower terminal screws. Pigtail the White/ with tape together
    To each end end of the two additional black wires.
    C) Connect the Red conductor to the top terminal of Rsw1.
    D) Connect the Black conductor to the top terminal of the Bsw2.


    That should take care of the connections. Now turn the circuit breaker back on and test the switches.

    Please note, there are several responders on this forum that may have significantly better wiring plans. They are Cielingfanman, TKrussell, KeepitsimpleStupid, Stanforty, HStroud and ballenger1.

    If they choose to append to this item pay attention to their suggestions!
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    May 7, 2008, 01:29 PM
    As far as the "wire type", romex is widely used, as well as "Smurf", ENT(Electrical Non metallic Tubing) it is flexible plastic conduit.Then you would pull individual conductors. White, Green, yellow? orange? and blue?(you could use 3 blacks as well for the 3 switchlegs).
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    May 7, 2008, 02:27 PM
    Smurf is used, but not widely used around here! :)

    Strat,
    I like the color picks. (Yellow, Orange, Blue)--sounds like a commercial job! :)
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    May 7, 2008, 03:16 PM
    Hey Washington, hope all is well. Down here yellow is commonly done for light, orange for fan. Black and Red for Hots or switch legs. Then yellow, orange, blue, brown, purple or any
    Other color but white, green, gray for switchlegs or travellers. I don't like to use yellow or orange for travellers, but have, and probably will do it again. Take Care

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