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Rodman67 · Apr 26, 2011, 08:51 AM

When pricing electrical by the opening. Does that include 220 circuits and homeruns for other circuits

tkrussell · Apr 26, 2011, 01:20 PM

No, not usually. Been so long since I did residential, but years ago I used $25.00 per outlet, to include all duplex receptacles, switches,wired light outlet boxes, hoods, fans, standard 15 + 20 amp circuits. Large circuits are done separately, more price the bill of materials for each plus cost of labor hours to do that specific circuit, such as range, dryer, AC, etc. Even separate circuits such as window AC units, any separate circuit.

If your looking for this because your in the business, always made money, but really can't tell you any margins.

If you're a customer getting quotes, the contractor is doing what is best for him, as large and/or separate circuits are not cookie cutter, difficult to put one price to all. Not a good business practice to include into the lower unit price, due to the higher costs of the materials and labor.

stanfortyman · Apr 26, 2011, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rodman67

When pricing electrical by the opening. Does that include 220 circuits and homeruns for other circuits

What is your basis for asking this?

Rodman67 · Apr 27, 2011, 05:18 AM

Thanks for the input on my question. I was asking because I'm trying to put together a price list to mail out to the contractors I have come in contact with over the years. Trying to build me a clientele.

tkrussell · Apr 27, 2011, 05:57 AM

So, your in the business. I am sure you can see why separate circuits for appliances,etc. should not be included in a flat rate per outlet price.

Even after I arrived at a total for outlets, I would still figure what is for homeruns, or anything that could skew the unit price.

stanfortyman · Apr 27, 2011, 02:35 PM

NO way in hell I'd give a break down of each item in my pricing structure. Each job is different and so is each item.
If someone comes to me with a small local home to wire, or a mcmansion, I price them differently.

Rodman67 · May 2, 2011, 09:08 AM

So what you are saying the bigger the house the bigger the price? Well I figure if I priced per opening the bigger the house automatically bigger the price! Just trying to find a fair price no matter the size of the house or project. Can't really expect to try and make the same profit margin on every job. Regardless of the size

Rodman67 · May 2, 2011, 09:13 AM

Trying to go with a price per outlet, switch, and lights. 220/240 circuits are more and c. fans can lights flood lights are extras. Separate price for the service.

Rodman67 · May 2, 2011, 09:15 AM

And why wouldn't you break it down into each item? Doesn't that ensure u get paid for every item u install?

Rodman67 · May 2, 2011, 09:24 AM

What do u mean large and/or separate circuits are not cookie cutter? Most houses regardless of the size have a dryer, water heater, furnace, AC, pressure tank which are large circuits in my opionion. Just different locations and length of pulls. Do you actually measure the length of each pull and price accordingly? We are talking new construction here. Very little surprizes with that type of work. Except for the fact the GC wants it all for nothing in most cases

stanfortyman · May 2, 2011, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rodman67

And why wouldnt you break it down into each item? Doesnt that ensure u get paid for every item u install?

Obviously I have to break it down to figure my price. I just will NOT break it down in my bid to the customer.

Originally Posted by Rodman67

What do u mean large and/or seperate circuits are not cookie cutter? Most houses regardless of the size have a dryer, water heater, furnace, AC, pressure tank which are large circuits in my opionion. just different locations and length of pulls. Do you actually measure the length of each pull and price accordingly? We are talking new construction here. Very little surprizes with that type of work. Except for the fact the GC wants it all for nothing in most cases

Of course I do not measure each HR, but if it is larger I will take the distance into account. Meaning a 15' run to a range will not be the same as a 100' run. THAT is what I was referring to with larger homes.