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    Jan 28, 2013, 05:59 AM
    Plastic Conduit Pipe
    Always wondered after you put an elbow and cement it. Isn't it difficult to fish
    The electrical wires through. Shouldn't the wires be feed first into the elbow and then sealed.
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    Jan 28, 2013, 06:46 AM
    Good morning, Pastor.

    The NEC requires the completion of the conduit prior to pulling the wire.

    "Condulets" with openings a;;ow you to pull the wire from shorter sections. Also, you can lube to make the pull easier.
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    Jan 28, 2013, 07:00 AM
    "Condulet" oh that is the fitting they used. For turns.Interesting. Thanks
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    Jan 28, 2013, 09:42 AM
    Yes, they also have left and right exits. If the cubic inch is embossed in the cavity, then you can put a splice inside,
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    Jan 28, 2013, 10:26 AM
    Wonderful
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    Jan 28, 2013, 10:36 AM
    Always wondered after you put an elbow and cement it. Isn't it difficult to fish
    The electrical wires through. Shouldn't the wires be feed first into the elbow and then sealed.
    You cannot pull the wires in as you go. You finish the pipe run and use a fish tape to pull the wires in after.
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    Jan 28, 2013, 10:53 AM
    Okay
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    Jan 29, 2013, 05:43 AM
    If the elbows your working with are similar to the ones shown in the photo you provided in this thread:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/electr...on-725814.html

    You will have difficulty fishing wire, since these are plumbing fittings used for electrical.
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    Jan 29, 2013, 06:10 AM
    Yes I have learn a "Condulet and plastic conduit is much better than an elbow anyhow.

    I guess there is a reason not to use plumbing pipes and elbows for electrical needs. Use instead plastic conduit and condulet. I guess the materials are made different?
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    Jan 29, 2013, 06:17 AM
    Plumbing fittings are NOT rated for electrical work. This is why qualifed plumbers and electricians are hired, each know what parts are to be used.

    Any materials used for electrical must be UL Listed for electrical.
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    Jan 29, 2013, 07:19 AM
    Very Good Information
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    Jan 30, 2013, 11:07 AM
    Pastor,

    I'm sorry to keep baggering you about getting your facility inspected, but you have very seriouselectrical code violations as evidenced by the pics you have attached.

    Please, before some of your church members end up in body bags get your wiring corrected!
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    Jan 30, 2013, 11:08 AM
    Yes very good advice. God Bless
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    Jan 30, 2013, 11:27 AM
    This wiring is in a place of assembly, which is rated for 100 persons or more?
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    Jan 30, 2013, 07:12 PM
    Good evening Pastor,

    I have a deal for you. Keep in mind that I'm not a Licensed Electrician here in the Commonwealth of Virginia (We'll get back to that later)

    I talked it over with Bonnie (my wife) and if you will cover all of our expenses for the month of February and place us at the Marriott Resort in Ft. Lauderdale for the month. I would travel to Florida inspect and repair (to the existing NEC code level for Florida) during the month of February.

    Now, I make this offer because I am concerned about the safety of the wiring at your campus. Bonnie has agreed to suffer through the month at the SPA and Resort Center.

    Now is that a deal or what!
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    Jan 31, 2013, 03:45 AM
    Would be cheaper to hire a local electrician to inspect and prepare a quote to repair safety issues, violations, etc.

    I notice I have not received an answer as to what type of facility this is.

    If this is a place of assembly, only qualified electricians are allowed to do any work.
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    Jan 31, 2013, 05:14 AM
    "Houses of worship" are by NEC definition automatically places of assembly, regardless of occupancy.

    Churches are some of the worst offenders when it comes to shoddy "volunteer" work. I know this first hand. Not imply you fit this description Pastor, but you have to be very careful with working in a church and all related buildings.
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    Jan 31, 2013, 06:36 AM
    TK,

    I was trying to keep a way from the "qualified" statement. I guess I'll let Bonnie know that she should stop packing. Here comes another "One way" conversation with her!
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