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paraclete · Oct 10, 2014, 05:24 AM

How to keep wild viruses--like Ebola--away from humans - CNN.com

I know Ebola is associated with eating "bush meat" but bats, give me a break. What I see here is all we do to eliminate Ebola is provide some food for people in West Africa. Who eats bats? Who eats monkeys? For heaven sake give me a break and take some responsibility. I have never found it necessary to eat a bat and I ask that we take some measures to ensure that this isn't part of the food chain

smoothy · Oct 10, 2014, 05:59 AM

Koreans eat dog... certain other groups eat bugs. Maybe what the problem is in West Africa is excessive breeding for the available local resources. Give them more food and they will breed more people that in turn need even more food.

talaniman · Oct 10, 2014, 08:23 AM

People tend to eat whatever is available to them, and when they can't find food, they will eat each other. No doubt Clete, if the grocery stores close you will get hungry enough to eat bugs, and bats, or the guy down the street.

All it takes is desperate hunger for you to put anything on the barby, or even raw like your ancestors before there was fire. Did you say you like your PRAWNS raw?

Keep your fake snob outrage to yourself. And watch your neighbor.

CravenMorhead · Oct 10, 2014, 08:27 AM

Friends don't let friends eat friends. Stop youth cannibalism.

smoothy · Oct 10, 2014, 08:42 AM

I don't know about that Craven... there are certain communities around the world I think could be improved by encouraging more of the youth to eat each other.

catonsville · Oct 10, 2014, 09:08 AM

You guys crack me up sometimes. Good point Smoothy population growth would take a hit.

talaniman · Oct 10, 2014, 09:24 AM

Starvation as a birth control measure, how novel. Almost as effective as cannibalism.

Why bother though,

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Elo...t_nbr=7zeybztn

Humans will be deleted anyway.

paraclete · Oct 10, 2014, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

. Did you say you like your PRAWNS raw?

Now you are coming the raw prawn. I eat prawns cooked, however I don't see the need for them to be reheated, they are delicious in a salad. You see I won't have to eat bats, or people there are plenty of roo's and pigs, and, fish and fowl in the rivers This is after all Barbeequearea as well as being Boganvilla

tomder55 · Oct 10, 2014, 03:14 PM

the flesh of chimps and other endangered species is considered a delicacy in much of Africa.
CNN - Poachers killing gorillas, chimps for bush meat delicacy - December 30, 1998

paraclete · Oct 10, 2014, 04:45 PM

Yes Tom we know the African pallate differs from the European, why, it's a wonder there is any long pig left in america, no doubt chimp and gorilla have the same qualities as long pig, however, if what you eat kills you it is a bad idea. Smoothy's idea that the problem is population is only echoing what I've been saying for a long time, the answer to many of our problems is population reduction, but every time one group tries it, the others gang up against it. Left to their own devices the africans will annihilate each over, they have demonstrated this many times over, particularly in central africa

Precious7 · Oct 10, 2014, 05:52 PM

I know people who have eaten Bats and they say it taste like chicken and they eat because its meat is good and beneficial in some kind of disease, they also eat wild pigeon, wild rooster etc.

paraclete · Oct 10, 2014, 06:15 PM

Hi precious, welcome to the debate, bats unfortunately carry some exotic diseases like hendra and ebola and so people become infected because they don't know this. In remote places a person gets sick and dies and the disease doesn't spread far, but in this case the variety of sources of infection is large. Aids came out of Africa and it has killed millions, this is much more virilient, it kills you a lot quicker, there is only a small chance of recovery even with treatment. The lesson is that you cannot ignore the potential for infection

tickle · Oct 11, 2014, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Hi precious, welcome to the debate, bats unfortunately carry some exotic diseases like hendra and ebola and so people become infected because they don't know this. In remote places a person gets sick and dies and the disease doesn't spread far, but in this case the variety of sources of infection is large. Aids came out of Africa and it has killed millions, this is much more virilient, it kills you a lot quicker, there is only a small chance of recovery even with treatment. The lesson is that you cannot ignore the potential for infection

Oh, yes, paraclete, I entirely agree with you. Good post.

talaniman · Oct 11, 2014, 05:12 AM

Any animal can carry a disease, as can birds and insects. Not everyone has the luxury, or where with all to know if they do or not.

Your facts about the ebola virus are flawed as usual.

there is only a small chance of recovery even with treatment.

tomder55 · Oct 11, 2014, 05:19 AM

70 % chance of fatality . Tal is correct . Most food sources carry a degree of risk.

talaniman · Oct 11, 2014, 05:25 AM

Outcomes for recovery are markedly better with early diagnosis and treatment.

tickle · Oct 11, 2014, 06:02 AM

Outcome for recovery from ebola is negative if one has a compromised immune system. i.e. babies with undeveloped immune systems, diabetics who are compromised with this and other associated symptoms, those with heart disease, etc.

talaniman · Oct 11, 2014, 07:51 AM

Successful outcomes are dependent on resources and infrastructure, of which there are none where all this started. As that changes so will the problems be solved. The others before it have, and this is no different.

tickle · Oct 11, 2014, 08:41 AM

Resources and infrastructures mean nothing over there if families continue to 'hoard' their ill people, not willing to part with them thinking they can cope. BUT the reality is that they cant deal with the body fluids excreted which is contaminated and become ill themselves. When they realize they cant cope and the family members start dying, they take them out and leave them in street. It is a vicious circle of contamination.

Then there are those who are hired to remove the dead contaminated.

Healthcare workers caring for the infected are inevitably at high risk from contamination if they let their guards slip and not take proper precautions.

talaniman · Oct 11, 2014, 10:10 AM

Infrastructure and resources could mean everything though.