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    #101

    Jul 18, 2021, 11:13 AM
    nanny state ala Francese .......
    Wide scale protests across France with protesters calling for the head (resignation ) of Macron , following his announcement that a digital health pass would be required in all "bars, restaurants, amusement parks, shopping centers, trains, coaches and planes."

    All those silly French lacking "common sense "<sarc>

    There are also protests in Greece .
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    #102

    Jul 18, 2021, 11:15 AM
    Thankfully there are still those abroad who value the worth of freedom.
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    #103

    Jul 18, 2021, 01:00 PM
    My characterization of CB's post as a "lie" was too harsh. My apologies. It would have been much better to have said he was mistaken in his understanding of my comment.
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    #104

    Jul 18, 2021, 06:55 PM
    apparently you can, witness JL's last post
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    #105

    Aug 17, 2021, 12:36 PM
    sorry can't resist

    The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring
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    #106

    Aug 17, 2021, 12:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The Taliban spokesman got a question about freedom of speech and he said the question should be asked to US companies like Facebook who claim to promote it while still censoring
    What is "freedom of speech"?

    What answer did the Taliban spokesman get?
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    #107

    Aug 17, 2021, 01:25 PM
    Spokesperson Suhail Shaheen said prior to that ..The Taliban “believes in freedom of speech” and suggested those rights will extend to women in Afghanistan During an appearance on Sky News on Tuesday, Shaheen said: “We are committed to women’s rights to education, to work and for freedom of speech.”
    “We believe all citizens should be equal in the sight of law and there should not be any kind of discrimination."

    The Taliban has been spreading the message of jihad on Twitter ;a forum Trump is still banned on .His complaint was that Facebook still considers the Taliban terrorists . They also vowed to honor women's rights ......within the context of Sharia law . This is the more kinder gentler Taliban
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    #108

    Aug 17, 2021, 01:26 PM
    I think WG's point is that freedom of speech does not extend to the private enterprises. That's true so fair enough, but when there is a concerted effort to shut down fair and honest exchanges of ideas on these media giants, then perhaps it's time to start looking at their monopolies needing to be broken up.

    Also seems strange that FB cannot be compelled to allow free and open exchanges of ideas, but bakeries can be forced to participate in gay weddings. Doesn't pass the smell test.
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    #109

    Aug 17, 2021, 01:34 PM
    I think WG's point is that freedom of speech does not extend to the private enterprises.
    Funny I did not divine that in the question. Guess I have to brush up on my Socratic method .Anyway I'm sure the complaint press did not probe.

    My own opinion is public companies like it or not have become the public square . This is doubly true when companies like Facebook has been proven to be the mouthpiece of the government .
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    #110

    Aug 17, 2021, 01:58 PM
    This is doubly true when companies like Facebook has been proven to be the mouthpiece of the government .
    Not to mention most of the media proving to be cheerleaders for the Democrat party.
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    #111

    Aug 17, 2021, 02:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    bakeries can be forced to participate in gay weddings.
    Gay dollar bills are just as green as cis dollar bills.
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    #112

    Aug 17, 2021, 02:44 PM
    There are gay dollar bills
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    #113

    Aug 17, 2021, 03:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    There are gay dollar bills
    Happy, happy money!!!
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    #114

    Aug 17, 2021, 03:28 PM
    Freedom of conscience for straight individuals, and for that matter ALL individuals, is more important than anyone's green dollar bills. Some things, amazingly enough, are more important than money.
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    #115

    Aug 17, 2021, 03:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Happy, happy money!!!
    I'm reminded of the opening chorus from South Pacific, don't know why, maybe those were times that were really gay and happy

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