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    Apr 23, 2022, 04:26 AM
    worth asking
    The NY Post broke the Hunter Biden laptop story October 2020 . The compliant press ,the swamp critters ,and Big Tech immediately circles the wagons around Quid . Intel "experts labelled it Russian disinformation and that became the chattering class narrative. People who dared question it on social media were banned . Journalists like Glenn Greenwald who dared to do some real investigative journalism was pressured so hard by his editors at the Intercept that he was forced to resign.

    Article on Joe and Hunter Biden Censored By The Intercept (substack.com)

    For the most part any serious reporting of the Biden crime family was purged until this year.

    So the question begs to be asked . Could the very close 2020 election been won by Trump if the 5th column .... ooops I mean 4th estate had done what a free press is supposed to do in a democracy ?
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    Apr 23, 2022, 05:14 AM
    Could the very close 2020 election been won by Trump if the 5th column .... ooops I mean 4th estate had done what a free press is supposed to do in a democracy ?
    I think Trump would have won decisively.
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    Apr 23, 2022, 06:27 AM
    add to that Big Tech putting the thumb on the scales by using Zuck buck injections into local swing district election offices under the guise of COVID relief .
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    Apr 23, 2022, 06:34 AM
    and is there a link to Hunter Biden's influence peddling and the 2016 Evita campaign ?

    You guessed it .

    Sources: Dem lobbying firm under federal investigation for Burisma work - POLITICO

    It stands to reason that the Clinton and Biden crime families are linked .
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    Apr 23, 2022, 07:40 AM
    And it makes apparent why the dems wanted the fake impeachment trial against Trump. They needed the smokescreen and the compliant media worked with them to accomplish it.
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    Aug 27, 2024, 03:37 AM
    Now that Clueless Joe is out of the picture ;and there is a chance that Trump could win and bring in folks who know the truth about the Censorship Industrial Complex ;one of the leading actors ,Mark Zuckerberg of Fakebook now Meta fame... and the distributor of Zuck bucks that helped swing the 2020 election to Joe ;NOW ADMITS that he was complicit in the censorship of such important information as the content of the Hunter laptop.

    Yesterday he sent a mea culpa letter to House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan admitting that under pressure (of course his arm was twisted </sarc> ) he censored information about the laptop ;covid and other stuff the deep state wanted buried .

    House Judiciary GOP 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 on X: "Mark Zuckerberg just admitted three things: 1. Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans. 2. Facebook censored Americans. 3. Facebook throttled the Hunter Biden laptop story. Big win for free speech. https://t.co/ALlbZd9l6K" / X

    Conspicuously absent from his confession is information on how Fakebook suppressed information on the election steal and his role in it .
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    Aug 27, 2024, 04:39 AM
    This will, I'm sure, be met with a collective yawn from the MSM. They will be busy obsessing about something Trump did fifty years ago.
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    Aug 27, 2024, 11:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    This will, I'm sure, be met with a collective yawn from the MSM. They will be busy obsessing about something Trump did fifty years ago.
    Or this morning.
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    Aug 27, 2024, 01:20 PM
    A comment with no specificity. Am I surprised?
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    Aug 27, 2024, 02:18 PM
    They already created the distraction that will be the major headline in the compliant press.

    New federal indictment filed against Trump in federal Jan. 6 case (msn.com)
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    Aug 29, 2024, 02:48 AM
    Democracy 101 ..people in a free society have a right to know what is going on . For that purpose the press is guaranteed the freedom to report and the people are guaranteed the right to a free and open exchange of ideas. In the 21st century this has never been an easier objective. The internet makes the world a town forum.

    The responsible reporter should be the equivalent of the town crier and Paul Reviere all in one ;distributing the news . The net social media sites should be where the pamphleteers and the community engage in discussion and make their case in debate.

    But that is not what happens today . The governments manufacture the facts we are permitted to read and hear. Take war as just one example. Remember how Vietnam was covered ? Reporters roamed the country and battlefields giving us verbal and video reports daily. Have you seen anything close to that type of reporting from the Russia -Ukraine war ? The government feeds reports to the press and they dutifully report them . We are like mushrooms kept in the dark and fed manure .

    You have to go to the third party social media sites to have any chance of finding the truth . But they came under assault and obediently censored content .
    The deep state found a way to bypass the 1st amendment. They were going to decide what information we had a right to know ;and even more chilling ;they were going to decided who we had to democratically elect as our leaders .

    We knew that of course because when Elon Musk obtained Twitter he opened up the history of the censorship to some liberal reporters who still actually believe in the freedoms of the 1st amendment . But you know ;Elon is a nut job flake . Attacking him legally as the government has done is their way of discrediting him.

    So what are they going to do to Zuckerberg ;the guy who funded the 2020 steal ,now that he has turned coat ?

    Zuckerberg says he regrets caving to White House pressure on content - POLITICO


    Have you seen the letter ? Responsible journalists should've made this the lead report ;the front page news . This should've been tacked on to posts across the country like Martin Luther did his theses .

    meta-letter-082024.pdf (dj.com)

    It is not long or complicated . It takes less than 5 minutes to read. But it confirms all the information that Musk released from Twitter files.

    The response from the beachcomber Clueless Joe and Kam the Sham administration was swift .

    “Our position has been clear and consistent: we believe tech companies and other private actors should take into account the effects their actions have on the American people, while making independent choices about the information they present.”
    Zuckerberg says he regrets caving to White House pressure on content - POLITICO

    No they are NOT bound by that and what does that even mean? Where in the Constitution is the government's power to determine what information the people have a right to know ?

    The Democrats are the party of democracy joy joy joy . But they don't believe in it as been amply demonstrated in the last couple of months . They don't even believe their faithful have a right to choose. What else do they have in store for the rest of us ?
    Information censored and the criminalization of political opposition comes immediately to mind.
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    #12

    Aug 29, 2024, 12:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    A comment with no specificity. Am I surprised?
    Too many to keep track.of. You don't really want a list, or do you? How about his calling war-slain US soldiers "losers" and "suckers", then visits Arlington National Cemetery on Monday, ignored DoD policies that prohibit political activity on cemetery grounds, pushed aside a cemetery employee who asked him to obey the cemetery's rules, then turned the visit to the cemetery into a campaign op with a thumb's up and big grin.

    Oh, how many of Trump's digital trading cards have you bought at $99 per card? Don't forget! If you buy at least 15 cards, you'll also get a real card in the mail AND a piece of the navy suit he wore at the debate with Biden! How cool is that???!!!
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    Aug 29, 2024, 12:07 PM
    Too many to keep track.of. You don't really want a list, or do you?
    Sure. Let's see one. What is your list of what Trump did that morning?

    How about his calling war-slain US soldiers "losers" and "suckers",
    It has already been demonstrated to you that this story is a wild tale. You are evidently not interested in the truth. Sad.

    As to the Arlington story, Trump did not push anyone and is not accused of pushing anyone, so your lack of concern for the truth is on display yet again. But if it can be demonstrated that a dem president was photographed at Arlington, are you prepared to condemn that dem pres as well??? Are you??

    https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...606C&FORM=VIRE

    Trump did at least know where he was, why he was there, and what he was to do, unlike another pres we know of.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...98B&ajaxhist=0
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    Aug 29, 2024, 12:26 PM
    Of course, Faux News doesn't report the truth. Do a fair bit of googling to read about that cemetery incident. And yes, I'd say the same about Harris if she did something so stupid and unpatriotic.

    I've been a loyal Republican since I first registered to vote at age 18. That party is quickly falling apart, is in dire straits (thank you, Mr. Trump).
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    Aug 29, 2024, 01:14 PM
    Who was angry that Trump went to Arlington Cemetary ? Deep state never Trumpers
    Who was happy he was there ? Gold star families who lost loved ones in Joe and Kam's withdrawal folly .

    Who were no shows ? Joe and Kam . Joe did not want to be photographed looking bored and checking the time on his watch. Kam as usual says she was the last person in the room when the decision was made to essentially send 13 brave service members to an early grave . Family members say 3 years on Joe and Kam have yet to reach out to them . As Vance said "she can go to hell"

    Show me a video of the incident . At most Trump can be criticized for using footage of his trip there in a campaign ad.

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    Aug 29, 2024, 02:52 PM
    Of course, Faux News doesn't report the truth. Do a fair bit of googling to read about that cemetery incident. And yes, I'd say the same about Harris if she did something so stupid and unpatriotic.
    If you bothered to look, you would see that I did not refer to Fox News. The two videos, which you doubtless did not watch, were from PBS and the NY Post.

    Do you never tire of spreading, shall we say, "untruths"? If you would take the five minutes I took to find out the truth, you wouldn't post such "untruths". And even worse, your seeming hatred of Trump prevents you from admitting to what is plainly true.

    MSN reports that the Trump team was responding to an invitation from the families.
    Despite this, the Trump campaign continued to share images and videos from the visit, which included moments with Gold Star families who had invited him.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

    Tom's outstanding post above this one makes it all very clear. I can only hope you will read it with an open mind.
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    Aug 30, 2024, 09:44 AM
    If it took you only five minutes to find "the truth", you haven't found the truth.
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    Aug 30, 2024, 10:06 AM
    If it took you only five minutes to find "the truth", you haven't found the truth.
    Sorry, but this is just the usual, TDS inspired personal attack you have rather sadly seemed to have adopted as your SOP, so there is nothing of substance to reply to. I can only encourage you to read the letter from the families which Tom posted.

    But even at that, I'm still glad you are feeling better and are posting again!!
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    Aug 30, 2024, 11:31 AM
    BASH: Vice President Harris, you were a very staunch defender of President Biden’s capacity to serve another four years right after the debate. You insisted that President Biden is extraordinarily strong. Given where we are now, do you have any regrets about what you told the American people?
    HARRIS: No, not at all. Not at all. I have served with President Biden for almost four years now. And I’ll tell ya it’s one of the greatest honors of my career, truly. He cares so deeply about the American people. He is so smart and — and loyal to the American people. And I have spent hours upon hours with him, be it in the Oval Office or the Situation Room. He has the intelligence, the commitment, and the judgment and disposition that I think the American people rightly deserve in their president.
    She doesn't regret lying to the American people about Joe's OBVIOUS cognitive decline .

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