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excon · Oct 11, 2013, 07:48 AM

Hello again,

Don't MISUNDERSTAND me, as I'm sure you will anyway. It's NOT the reprehensible behavior of the cop involved.. It's that EVERYBODY else in the system GAVE him a pass. That makes THEM as guilty as the lousy cop.

Illinois Police Throw Woman Face First Into Concrete Bench, then charge her with resisting arrest

If you're squeamish, don't watch the video.

Excon

hkstroud · Oct 11, 2013, 01:25 PM

For once I agree with you. Problem is that the citizens will end up paying a lot of money but the cop nor the police force will suffer any consequences for his behavior. Fire cop and chief of police and these things would cease.

earl237 · Oct 11, 2013, 05:20 PM

Sadly you almost never see a case where a cop who uses excessive force is ever found guilty of the offence. Even in the rare situations where it happens, they get some wimpy non-punishment like a transfer, a few days suspension with pay or an absolute discharge, which means that legally, it never happened.

cdad · Oct 11, 2013, 06:19 PM

This is sooooo wrong. That cop should lose everything. I bet its not the first time either.

speechlesstx · Dec 9, 2013, 02:40 PM

Speaking of rogue cops, it seems that besides running guns to Mexico the ATF has a penchant for grooming their own criminals and then busting them.

Aaron Key wasn't sure he wanted a tattoo on his neck. Especially one of a giant squid smoking a joint.

But the guys running Squid's Smoke Shop in Portland, Ore., convinced him: It would be a perfect way to promote their store.

They would even pay him and a friend $150 apiece if they agreed to turn their bodies into walking billboards.

Key, who is mentally disabled, was swayed.

He and his friend, Marquis Glover, liked Squid's. It was their hangout. The 19-year-olds spent many afternoons there playing Xbox and chatting with the owner, "Squid," and the store clerks.

So they took the money and got the ink etched on their necks, tentacles creeping down to their collarbones.

It would be months before the young men learned the whole thing was a setup. The guys running Squid's were actually undercover ATF agents conducting a sting to get guns away from criminals and drugs off the street.

The tattoos had been sponsored by the U.S. government; advertisements for a fake storefront.

The teens found out as they were arrested and booked into jail.

Earlier this year when the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel exposed a botched ATF sting in Milwaukee — that included agents hiring a brain-damaged man to promote an undercover storefront and then arresting him forhis work — ATF officials told Congress the failed Milwaukee operation was an isolated case of inadequate supervision.

It wasn't.

Read more from Journal Sentinel: Watchdog Report - ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation
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Read the examples, I find it all quite disturbing and indicative of a bureaucracy run amok. Maybe you guys should be less worried about ordinary citizens having guns and more about government agencies gone rogue.

cdad · Dec 9, 2013, 03:10 PM

I have no words for that article. It just disgusts me so badly.

paraclete · Dec 9, 2013, 04:07 PM

There are rogue cops everywhere and they must be found and removed from positions of authority. Obviously this officer used excessive force, but not being there we can only say his actions may have been inappropriate. The outcome shows unnecessary injury but when you fall against an immoveable object something has to give.There are some people who just loose control and I'm speaking of those on both sides of the law.

if you haven't faced someone who has totally lost it then you are very fortunate

joypulv · Dec 9, 2013, 05:04 PM

The CIA was the original rogue agency. BILLIONS spent on stings so elaborate and so full of things like massive money laundering, that the people involved couldn't stop living the life. Lots of news about this 30, 40 years ago.

Maybe it trickled down.

paraclete · Dec 9, 2013, 05:49 PM

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Alty · Dec 9, 2013, 06:09 PM

That video disturbs me. They keep telling her to look at the camera, before they slam her into her cell it seems she was trying to ask where the camera was. I'd ask that too. What camera. Tell me where it is and I'll look into it.

Instead of being calm, giving instruction, they literally threw her into her cell, against the cement bed/bench.

Just disturbing on every level. I hope she wins her law suit.

Athos · Dec 10, 2013, 10:03 PM

Police candidates are drawn from the middle, lower-middle class and the psychological screening is abyssmal. While most blue-collar workers do just fine, there's an element who join for the badge and gun - ultimate symbols of street authority.

The good ones start out good, but it's not easy to avoid the corruption, small in the beginning, that pops up to any group in such power.

Sad to say, the best thing to happen re police forces in this country is the video camera possessed by the ordinary citizen.

paraclete · Dec 10, 2013, 11:24 PM

your problem is you have too many police forces, too many people feeling they have to perform. you sound like you fear your police and it shouldn't be like that

speechlesstx · Dec 11, 2013, 04:45 AM

I don't fear our police, but this is disturbing on too many levels.

paraclete · Dec 11, 2013, 04:53 AM

yes disturbing glad I don't live in a police atate

speechlesstx · Dec 11, 2013, 05:22 AM

I gotta admit I didn't expect the party pooper in chief to turn the Park Service into his enforcers during the shutdown theater.

talaniman · Dec 11, 2013, 06:43 AM

You should have thought about that before you shut the government down.

excon · Dec 11, 2013, 06:53 AM

Hello again,

You saw THIS, didn't you???? Cop fires at minivan full of kids after traffic-stop scuffle in New Mexico.

I HATE them... I REALLY do..

excon

speechlesstx · Dec 11, 2013, 07:06 AM

Tal, it is your side that wants to shut it down again.

Yes, I saw the other video, too, and they also have a propensity to shoot people's dogs. Time to clean it up.

talaniman · Dec 11, 2013, 07:40 AM

I saw the entire video, and the cop that stopped her bent over backward to explain to this woman all she had to do was take the speeding citation and go about her business, even though her license was expired. Not excusing the cops at all after that but damn that was a pretty dumb way to handle a traffic stop all around.

speechlesstx · Dec 11, 2013, 07:48 AM

Maybe, but shooting over a traffic stop was even more stupid.