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    Jan 11, 2019, 10:50 AM
    While You Trump Supporters Were Sleeping
    Donald the Crazy announced an immediate withdrawal from Syria since he had defeated ISIS. Top-level military men bailed out of his administration because that was a lie. Bolton declared the opposite, and the Head of State of Turkey refused to meet with Bolton because “America is nuts”. Good point, Erdogan.


    Orangehead wants his wall built, so what does he do? Well what any sane person would do – he refuses to pay wages to almost one million workers and insists some of them work anyway without pay. Nobody on the planet has yet figured out what one has to do with the other. Meanwhile, sick people can't get medical treatment, mortgages are going unpaid, and babies can't get their milk. What does idiot boy say? “They'll adjust”.


    Donald the Genius (“I'm smarter than almost everybody and have big words”) has caused agriculture losses in the billions because he doesn't understand how trade works. Payments to farmers have been stopped because he doesn't understand how a shutdown government works. Donald the Dope says he will move money intended for Hurricane relief in Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico to build his wall, but he can't because he doesn't understand how Congress allocates funds.



    Then there are the border agents who he claims “love” him. They're suing him for lost wages.
    Today the Air Traffic Controllers sued Trump for lack of due process.
    TSA is next.


    Oh yeah, remember Mexico paying for the wall – he denies saying he ever claimed they would pay it with cash or a check or something like that - “directly”. This in spite of literally hundreds of videos proving that is EXACTLY what he said! He now claims the money will be “paid” by Mexico via the new trade agreement (which hasn't even been approved yet by Congress, and which will not generate nearly enough federal revenue to pay for a wall).


    Just another day in the deliriously dizzy world of a demented president.
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    Jan 11, 2019, 01:47 PM
    Don't worry, it will soon all be over, no matter what the outcome
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    Jan 12, 2019, 07:23 AM
    If only we had elected that emotionally stable, thoroughly honest, and highly accomplished democrat Hillary Clinton. I'm sure things would be much better.

    When a party runs a mediocre candidate like Hillary, they shouldn't complain when the other party wins the election. Trump is certainly not a great president, but with unemployment numbers at record lows, I'm willing to cut him some slack.

    As to the government shut-down, Mr. Obama did the same thing over Obamacare. The dems in congress are as responsible as Trump is, but I notice you had no criticism for them.
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    Jan 13, 2019, 06:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If only we had elected that emotionally stable, thoroughly honest, and highly accomplished democrat Hillary Clinton. I'm sure things would be much better.

    You got THAT right!
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    Jan 13, 2019, 06:38 AM
    I forgot to enable the EXTREME SARCASM font on that paragraph.
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    Jan 13, 2019, 02:35 PM
    While we were sleeping ,the left exposed their true open borders positions.

    “It would come from those of us who be­lieve we’ve al­ready given enough wall fund­ing away,” said Rep. File­mon Vela (D., Texas). “I would go much fur­ther than that. I would tear the ex­ist­ing struc­ture down.”
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/wall-im...ts-11547380801
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    Jan 13, 2019, 02:42 PM
    They do not have an open-borders position.

    What about the Eastern Coast, the Pacific Coast, the Canadian border? They're open. $1.7 million worth of fentanyl was seized at the Port of Philadelphia last summer. Highly potent fentanyl-based opioid products – illegally produced and trafficked into Canada by overseas drug laboratories and sold for astronomical profits – have caused hundreds of deaths, all while authorities are helplessly watching. That opioid stream is flowing south into this country.
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    Jan 13, 2019, 04:24 PM
    What about the Eastern Coast, the Pacific Coast, the Canadian border?
    Those areas are not open in the sense that anyone can just walk through at any time. There are still laws that apply, but they are not where we have a half million illegal immigrants a year trying to just walk in. If the port of Philly is "open", then how did they catch the fentanyl product?
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    Jan 13, 2019, 04:40 PM
    I know because I deal with imports that the ports are NOT open. I spend sometimes 2 or more weeks waiting for FDA and customs releases .
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    Jan 13, 2019, 04:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Those areas are not open in the sense that anyone can just walk through at any time. There are still laws that apply, but they are not where we have a half million illegal immigrants a year trying to just walk in. If the port of Philly is "open", then how did they catch the fentanyl product?
    There are no walls on the Pacific and Atlantic coasts and at the Canadian border. How do we catch illegal drugs and keep out illegal immigrants? How do we close those weak/open boundaries?
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    Jan 13, 2019, 04:55 PM
    show me the armada of illegals trying to enter by sea . If they do come here by sea then they have a valid visa. That some of them allow their visa to expire is a separate issue that also needs to be addressed. Of course all they have to do is settle in sanctuary cities and states to secure their illegal presence . Gavin Newsom's California budget proposal would have state taxpayers fund an additional $260 million of taxpayer's money to pay for illegal's healthcare . No problem . Progressive socialists always find ways to confiscate other people's money . As Sandanista Bill in NYC says .

    “Brothers and sisters, there’s plenty of money in the world. There’s plenty of money in this city. It’s just in the wrong hands,”
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    Jan 13, 2019, 04:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    “Brothers and sisters, there’s plenty of money in the world. There’s plenty of money in this city. It’s just in the wrong hands,”

    Yes indeed but does he have plans to take it away from the wrong people, his constituent super rich. No, he wants to take it away from the middle class and make the super rich richer, and no thought of giving it to the poor, because the poor are always with us
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    Jan 13, 2019, 05:12 PM
    I'm not talking so much about illegal people as much as illegal drugs.

    4 Six states account for 58% of unauthorized immigrants: California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. But individual states have experienced different trends. From 2007 to 2016, the unauthorized immigrant population decreased in a dozen states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York and Oregon. In three states, the unauthorized immigrant population rose over the same period: Louisiana, Maryland and Massachusetts.
    5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

    I guess we need walls around New York, New Jersey, Florida, and Illinois. Plus Louis, Maryland, and Massachusetts.
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    Jan 13, 2019, 05:17 PM
    I guess we need walls around New York, New Jersey, Florida, and Illinois. Plus Louis, Maryland, and Massachusetts.
    Why don't you economise and build one around Washington?
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    Jan 13, 2019, 05:35 PM
    They settle in NY and NJ and the states you mention in many cases . That does not make those states the entry point .
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    Jan 13, 2019, 06:07 PM
    They weren't caught until they got to Massachusetts?
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    Jan 13, 2019, 06:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    They settle in NY and NJ and the states you mention in many cases . That does not make those states the entry point .

    And Trump's declaring an emergency does not make it an emergency! And why didn't he do anything when he had both houses?

    Answer: the whole thing is nothing but a setup to signal his core group of supporters. Trump cares nothing about drugs, immigrants and children dying on Christmas Day while under the protection of his ICE.

    When will you Trump supporters see him for what he is - a man so self-obsessed he will do literally anything to get more influence, power and money.
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    Jan 13, 2019, 06:25 PM
    a man so self-obsessed he will do literally anything to get more influence, power and money.
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    The influence and power part I understand but needing to suspend certain operations, how does this make him more money?
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    Jan 14, 2019, 05:41 AM
    When will you Trump supporters see him for what he is - a man so self-obsessed he will do literally anything to get more influence, power and money.
    I think you are confused. That's a description of Hillary.
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    Jan 14, 2019, 08:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
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    The influence and power part I understand but needing to suspend certain operations, how does this make him more money?
    His base voters, supporters, and sycophants, love him for his fighting for their cause and building his wall, and destroying the government, and if he doesn't he no longer can scare the repub congress into standing with him. That's worth more than money right now, amid his considerable growing opposition and a national election looming in 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I think you are confused. That's a description of Hillary.
    Fits the dufus even better.

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