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    Feb 11, 2018, 12:16 PM
    That is all they submitted for the FISA warrants . Andy McCarthy was a Fed prosecutor for years . He led the prosecution of the Blind Sheik .He is not one to believe in conspiracy theories ,and until he read the memo from Senator's Grassley and Graham was unwilling to buy into a narrative that the FBI would be involved in domestic espionage against a Presidential candidate .

    Yes I think they only used the Steele dossier ;and like McCarthy wrote ,a Yahoo article submitted by Steele to verify Steele's info. The part they didn't count on was Evita losing the election . Had she won ,all this stuff would've been forever buried .
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    Feb 11, 2018, 12:26 PM
    CNN found the smoking gun of Russian collusion !!! Big Russian group anticipated for DC prayer breakfast - CNNPolitics
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    Feb 12, 2018, 04:57 AM
    I would rather have FACTS to judge and not just opinions... from either side to be honest. You will have to forgive me if Grassley and Graham don't have as much credibility given their past partisan stunts and behavior. More than the Dufus for sure who is a proven liar, cheater, and selfish manipulator. His current staffing problems will overshadow his Russian and budget problems for a while at least until he comes up with a new scandal to hit us with.

    He already announced his infrastructure plan is about to be unveiled and of course how he pays for it. Gas tax anyone? You may have to ask the boss for a raise, or another bonus.
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    Feb 13, 2018, 06:33 AM
    Trump is a typical lefty . Raising the gas tax or any tax is all they have (except he wants to toll the roads too). Before we spend another penny on infrastructure we ought to ask where all the money collected for the perpetually insolvent 'highway trust fund ' went . His proposal is stupid in so many levels. Why are we going to build all new 20th century infrastructure ? Let the states maintain what they have or build more if they choose . If we are going to fund any infrastructure at all at the Federal level it should be to transition into the 21st century (now that we are finishing the 2nd decade of it already ) . All Trump is proposing is his own version of porkulus .
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    Feb 13, 2018, 08:40 AM
    That's exactly what most mayor and governors are saying, dems and repubs, think congress will listen? I doubt it.
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    Feb 14, 2018, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Trump is a typical lefty . Raising the gas tax or any tax is all they have (except he wants to toll the roads too). Before we spend another penny on infrastructure we ought to ask where all the money collected for the perpetually insolvent 'highway trust fund ' went . His proposal is stupid in so many levels. Why are we going to build all new 20th century infrastructure ? Let the states maintain what they have or build more if they choose . If we are going to fund any infrastructure at all at the Federal level it should be to transition into the 21st century (now that we are finishing the 2nd decade of it already ) . All Trump is proposing is his own version of porkulus .
    And a great plan it will be, because he said he was going to do it, and there it is. Now you can no longer ask where is the promised infrastructure. It's logical, a great nation must have great infrastructure and a great wall. Look at China, they have a great wall, and great infrastructure, toll roads criss-cross the country, high speed rail carries billions, you have fallen behind and must catch up, but no, you count the cost
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    Feb 14, 2018, 05:43 PM
    high speed rail .lol The VAST majority of travel here is local . What I'm talking about is the infrastructure to bring LNG to filling stations so nat gas engines compete with gasoline engines in the market place. What I'm talking about is 21st century roads that can accommodate driverless vehicles . What I'm talking about is light rail running parallel to highways . What I'm talking about is pipelines that keep us from having to transport energy over roadways and freight rail .

    The notion that America’s infrastructure is “crumbling” and in poor condition is not supported by data. The percentage of the nation’s bridges deemed “structurally deficient”has declined annually and now sits at under 10 percent, well under half of what it was 25 years ago
    Our airports and airways safely move more people and goods than those of any other nation. Overall, the U.S. ranks near the top of G-7 nations for infrastructure quality .

    The revenue that are collected through the gas tax and tolling is more than enough to cover filling pot holes and building new bridges when necessary . And it is not like that is the sole source of funding . We had $800 billion in shovel ready porkulus at the beginning of the emperor's reign ;and another $305 billion bill passed a few years ago. So any state that wants to invest in old infrastructure ;go ahead and knock yourselves out .

    Eliminate all funding for local and wasteful projects such as bike paths. The Federal government should chip in for the maintenance of the Interstate system only .
    Don't expect the rest of the country to pay for pot hole filling on county roads .

    But if you want 21st century infrastructure ,then I'm all for it . Reduce the stagnating regulations that prevent development of a national broad band . Privatize airports like many European nations have already done. That's just a few ideas .
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    Feb 14, 2018, 05:55 PM
    The Dufus has bragged he is the king of debt, that's how he made his money, he says. I doubt seriously if he cares about anybody else's money being he has stiffed many who have worked for him and with him. He already got his with his tax cuts, so what does he care about spending OUR MONEY?

    I really don't think we care about the Chinese Clete, their trains or walls and yes eventually cost of stuff and who pays for it does matter. Punk Paul and repubs hope to kill two birds with one stone, deficit reduction through entitlement reform. Then they will have their trifecta.

    Righties called Obama the Emperor, but they think The Dufus is their savior.
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    Feb 14, 2018, 08:26 PM
    Entitlement reform is coming whether we like it or not . It is unsustainable now ;let alone after Trump adds Ivanka's pet entitlement to the system (paid family leave).
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    Feb 15, 2018, 05:12 AM
    I though you guys used chain gangs to fill pot holes on country roads, you should have more than enough free labour in prisons, even enough to build that light rail but don't knock bike paths you are going to need them. Having shovel ready projects doesn't mean they got built or were necessary, you just need to forget your love affair with gas guzzling monsters and you won't need those pipelines. National broadband isn't all its cracked up to be, just another sinkhole that should be provided by that capitalist investment system, but it isn't profitable, a few hundred billion, that is just a few thousand per person spread over a very long time, if it was built ten years ago it probably needs to be done again. You want to eliminate local funding but you are supposed to be about states, states that can't raise enough revenue, cities that are bankrupt. Tom, the system doesn't work, and you say you don't want federal help, what you need to do is get rid of wasteful local government
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    Feb 15, 2018, 05:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Entitlement reform is coming whether we like it or not . It is unsustainable now ;let alone after Trump adds Ivanka's pet entitlement to the system (paid family leave).
    Yeah take stuff away from aging older folks, women, and children and give it to the rich and uber rich. Build a wall along the southern border, and ignore lunatics shooting up schools, movie houses, restaurants, churches, concerts, and malls. Destroy the civil right division of the justice department and deport an illegal when he drops his kid at school. Protect wife beater and sexual predators, and ignore foreign enemies.

    Tell me more about this grand plan that will make America great again! The Dufus's speech after the 19th school shooting THIS YEAR says it all!

    What's unsustainable is giving permanent deep tax cuts to already rich guys, and doing NOTHING else for the rest of us.
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    Feb 15, 2018, 07:40 AM
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    What's unsustainable is giving permanent deep tax cuts to already rich guys, and doing NOTHING else for the rest of us.
    Yes Tal but the theory says, the rich guys will spend it in the right place, as distinct from the entitled who will only spend it to survive. You will never change anything while your nation clings to eighteenth century thinking while trying to relate to the twenty first century circumstances.. Learn that taxation is theft and governments should find other ways to fund themselves. Tom is correct, the age of entitlement must end, you should not be able to take more out of the system than you put in, and that means that government must ensure everyone is employed so they have something to put in. Instead of subsidies to promote employment, business taxes should be geared to how many are employed, a sort of reverse payroll tax
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    Feb 15, 2018, 10:13 AM
    The Dufus's speech after the 19th school shooting THIS YEAR says it all!
    I did not hear it but I suspect it was the typical predictable tropes that you always hear after shootings . So far the only thing I take from this is that the FBI knew about the warning signs for the shooter and did nothing . Maybe they should spend less time chasing phantom collusion theories and spend more time chasing down legitimate threats .
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    Feb 15, 2018, 10:19 AM
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    Yes Tal but the theory says, the rich guys will spend it in the right place, as distinct from the entitled who will only spend it to survive.
    Screw the theory because for rich guys spending in the right place means a huge return on their investment, and government is about investing in the welfare of it's people, not just the rich.

    You will never change anything while your nation clings to eighteenth century thinking while trying to relate to the twenty first century circumstances.
    Naw Clete the righties are in the 1950's and that's the 20th century. They are as slow as they are loud.

    Learn that taxation is theft and governments should find other ways to fund themselves. Tom is correct, the age of entitlement must end, you should not be able to take more out of the system than you put in, and that means that government must ensure everyone is employed so they have something to put in. Instead of subsidies to promote employment, business taxes should be geared to how many are employed, a sort of reverse payroll tax
    I can agree that the political class has stolen a lot of loot, but now they want to steal the benefits of being an American, and that crosses a line, since it's our money they are stealing when we need it the most. Maybe the thing to do is start penalizing American companies who abuse workers, instead of rewarding them. Our government has nothing to do with hiring, firing, benefits, wages or pensions in the private sector, and that's part of the problem, as we have allowed the private sector to buy our elected officials, and work against the citizen who put them in office.

    Between Vlad, Dufus, and his sycophants in congress, we are in deep do do.
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    Feb 15, 2018, 10:48 AM
    hey Tal ;did you see how much revenue the government collected last month ? The trickling begins .
    since it's our money they are stealing
    now you notice the government steals our money . A little late to the game but welcome aboard . Where is the SS trust fund ;both disability and Old age funds ? Where is all the money collected from us since we started working to pay for Medicare ? Where is all the money that was collected in gas taxes for the highway trust fund ? Here's the facts ..... the highway trust fund will be insolvent by 2021 , SSDI will be insolvent by 2023, Medicare by 2027 . The only thing keeping Medicare afloat at present is the double counting budget gimmicks created by Obamacare. In the year prior to the law’s enactment, the program’s trustees estimated that the Part A trust fund would become insolvent by 2017

    OASI by 2030 .


    Of course since some of this will happen ,maybe in herr Donald's second term ,he will take the blame even though we have known since it's inception that these entitlement programs were ponzi schemes .

    Then add to that , public pensions are underfunded because the states have the same sticky finger problems and we are looking at a real crisis as baby boomers leave the work force.
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    Feb 15, 2018, 11:12 AM
    I though you guys used chain gangs to fill pot holes on country roads,
    You have been watching too many 1930s era movies . We use over paid union labor to fill pot holes . Here is an example of the typical work crew .

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    Feb 15, 2018, 12:07 PM
    Let me clarify Tom, the government doesn't steal the money, politicians steal the money. BIG difference.
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    Feb 15, 2018, 08:27 PM
    What? No shovels to lean on, you are severely disadvantaged, I don't know how you get any work done at all
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    Feb 16, 2018, 03:05 AM
    The shovel crew has already done their work Clete. Check out a video of the whole process if you like to see the shovel crew.
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    Feb 16, 2018, 03:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The shovel crew has already done their work Clete. Check out a video of the whole process if you like to see the shovel crew.
    Shovels are not for working with Tal they are for leaning on, by the way that is a pic, not a video

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