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    Aug 20, 2011, 06:04 PM
    What about Obama's ratings in the toilet rating now?
    Now that he has a whopping 26% approval rating under his belt do you think it's a good idea for him to run again as President? I mean after all that he has done for (?) this country in undoing the immigration laws, to name just one thing. He sure has done nothing to speak of in helping out this country out of it's deep depression such as really creating jobs or solving the problems this country is plagued with. If he took the soldiers out of Afganistan right after Ossama was killed as he had promised the 31 special operations personnel plus the air crew would still be alive. There would have been 31 less flags draped over caskets being sent back to America.

    I for one told you guys when he was running back in 2008 that this guy was poison to this country and no one listened to me but just merrily kept shouting me down. Well, things have really changed and this guy has SHOWN just who he is and what his agenda is. It's to destroy America as we know it making us a third world country with a dictator in charge.

    Now what do you think should happen with Obama and his thugs continuing to run the country into the ground? Didn't we have enough of this guy to last us a lifetime?

    Surely America is not this blind, or is it? Do we have to keep repeating history again and again or can we wake up and finally realize just WHO this guy IS and just who this guy IS NOT. Or as I suspect the elections are rigged to have the winner that the Illuminati or the Global Elite want in the White House. I'm beginning to lean toward the Global Elite selection myself and NOT who the people want. Electronic voting machines need to be eliminated due to the easy fraud involved.

    P.S. Wondergirl - If you DO have a direct connection to him please tell him NOT to run again. We've had all of him and his family we can stomach for now. And his lies are getting pathetic. I don't want his forced healthcare either.
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    Aug 20, 2011, 06:21 PM
    Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel?
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    Aug 20, 2011, 07:08 PM
    Well now you know what it is to live in a country controlled by a minority
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    Aug 21, 2011, 03:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    ...what his agenda is. It's to destroy America as we know it making us a third world country with a dictator in charge.
    People who say stuff like this don't want a discussion - they just want to rage on.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 08:52 AM
    Of course why not be glad to see him to run. It is like the last election, anyone who was not Rebublican could have won.

    So now, almost any one has a good chance
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    So now, almost any one has a good chance
    Hello Padre:

    I agree that a REASONABLE Republican, like Huntsman or Mitch Daniels could win. But, a know nothing like Bachmann or Palin, or a swaggering Republican from Texas have NO CHANCE.

    Paul Ryan is probably going to enter the race.. He has no chance either... Chris Christie??
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Well now you know what it is to live in a country controlled by a minority
    Clete, if you mean the Democrats, they aren't a minority.. But, I think you mean black people. Not only is that wrong too, but the implications are ugly racist.

    excon
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel?
    I already did. I never believed him or liked him and always thought that once he got into office this country would be doomed. And it is NOW. He is a communist happily stripping away our beloved Constitution and giving us a dictatorship. I'll be worse than surprised if we have another election and have a dictator in charge soon as it's looking more like that every day. And he really does not need an excuse to name himself dictator. Bush already paved the way for this to happen and he's going to grab at this with both hands. So, if you DO have a direct line to him, please tell him to back off. You did claim to have a direct line to him, remember of have you forgotten? I haven't.

    And as far as Tea Partiers, I think they're going nowhere as well. They mean well, but somehow they don't have the right adjenda going for them as the birth certificate issue is NOT going anywhere thanks to the millions spent in concealing it.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Well now you know what it is to live in a country controlled by a minority
    Sorry, this is NOT a minority controlled country. It is a country headed towards Communism and dictatorhsip. Obama is just the puppet handled by the real controllers of this country.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    People who say stuff like this don't want a discussion - they just want to rage on.
    Uh you seem to forget that YOU where for this guy and you don't even live in this country. So much for your opinions on this poison guy. I even said America will probably be gunless and rightless like you are soon, or don't you remember that?
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Of course why not be glad to see him to run. It is like the last election, anyone who was not Rebublican could have won.

    So now, almost any one has a good chance
    Niice sentiments but I frankly don't see that happening. Look at Bush II stealing the first and second election. Same thing can happen AGAIN. Wouldn't surprise me in the least with Obama doing the same thing.

    Obama is NOT a seasoned statesman, never was, never will be. He's just a puppet taking instructions on how to trash America and going forward thinking that these are his ideas. He's too wrapped up with himself and how wonderful he is and the handlers are just playing him like a fiddle.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:43 AM
    Twink, so you believe the best possible choice for U.S. president is whom?
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    Aug 21, 2011, 09:52 AM
    We need a for real leader who does not speak out of both sides of their mouth. So far I have not seen any candidate that does not do this regardless Dem or Repub.

    I like the fact that in Canada if they don't like their president they can vote him OUT. We don't have that option here in USA. Wish we did as Obama would have been voted out a long time ago.

    His in the toilet ratings now mean that the country is hopefully waking up and seeing what a true liar this guy really is and was foisted upon us illegally all while singing change, change. Change, what for the worst? Apparently so and so many people fell for his malarkey. He runs a slick campaign promising all kinds of stuff and then delivers crap and lies.

    I think that honest folks don't want to be president. My grandmother used to say that no honest man wants to be president. And she died back in 1955. How prophetic her words ring now.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 10:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    We need a for real leader who does not speak out of both sides of their mouth.
    So we're doomed.

    Did your grandmother ever like any president?
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    Aug 21, 2011, 10:49 AM
    Not that I remember but then I was a kid when she died. She worked in a WWII factory during the war and did not like that as it ruined her health forever. When I knew her she was always ill and died at age 55 never collecting a dime of SSR.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 10:57 AM
    What's SSR? Did she apply for it and was turned down?

    So all politicians are bad. Now what?
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    Aug 21, 2011, 12:41 PM
    This is amazing because every president has people who love him, who feel deep personal affection or connection, who have a stubborn, even beautiful refusal to let what they know are just criticisms affect their feelings of regard. At the height of Bill Clinton’s troubles there were always people who’d say, “Look, I love the guy.” They’d often be smiling — a wry smile, a shrugging smile. Nobody smiles when they talk about Mr. Obama. There were people who loved George W. Bush when he was at his most unpopular, and they meant it and would say it. But people aren't that way about Mr. Obama. He has supporters and bundlers and contributors, he has voters, he may win. But his support is grim support.
    Noonan: They've Lost That Lovin' Feeling - WSJ.com
    Peggy Noonan of course was one of those infatuated ,star-struck ,inside the beltway aristocratic Repubics who helped the President win in 2008 . Took her long enough to jump off the bus.

    This weekend he did an executive order to essentally override Congress on immigration .This he felt compelled to do after the Hispanic/American community told him off . Perhaps he will salvage their support ;but Perry brings and interesting wrinkle in the President's strategery... and if Marco Rubio can be convinced to run as VEEP the President would be in trouble.
    Who else... the Progressives are sick of him . Bernie Sanders wants him primaried . Maxine Waters expressed her disgust that the President's bus tour and vacation never made it into African/American comunities.

    So he is losing a battle in which he had superior forces—the presidency, the U.S. Senate. In the process he revealed that his foes have given him too much mystique. He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What's SSR? Did she apply for it and was turned down?

    So all politicians are bad. Now what?
    SSR Social Security Retirement. She was not old enough and they didn't have SSD back then in 1955 for her to apply to. Both my grandmothers never collected SSD as they died before age 65. You could not retire at age 62 back then.

    Yes MOST politicians are bad. How come you haven't figured this out yourself? The senators and congressmen only break their necks to get elected so they can become RICH or RICHER and do not have the best interests of America at heart. AND they essentially have a job for LIFE as a lot of those weasels end up getting. Very few of our Washington elected officials are poor or middleclass as they cannot afford the filing fees for one and don't have the mega bucks friends to contribute to their campaigns. Case in point, Obama didn't "need" the campaign money from the little people as he had tons of money from the big corporations here and abroad. Which I believe is illegal but he got away with it anyway. I worked on a campaign for a Senator in Florida back in 1996 (or thereabouts) and my boss was the Finance Treasurer of the campaign and I did all the financial disclosures paperwork for the contributors on a daily basis and faxed the info to the FEC daily.
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    Aug 21, 2011, 04:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Clete, if you mean the Democrats, they aren't a minority.. But, I think you mean black people. Not only is that wrong too, but the implications are ugly racist.

    excon
    No Ex it simply means that you may not have things the way you like them, that members of a minority will want different issues addressed. That is only ugly and racist if you see those issues as unimportant
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    Aug 21, 2011, 06:39 PM
    Hello again, clete:

    So, you WRONGLY believe that Obama is controlled by black people, and you now want to double down on your wrongness..

    Ok, by me.

    excon
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    Aug 21, 2011, 10:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, clete:

    So, you WRONGLY believe that Obama is controlled by black people, and you now wanna double down on your wrongness..

    Ok, by me.

    excon
    No Ex that's not right I expect that he would have black issues as a high priority because he has worked among poorer black people, in fact, I would be surprised if he didn't. That doesn't make him wrong to pursue those issues because in doing so he will address issues important to a wider community. You want racist, I'll say that those who don't want to pay a little more in tax dollars to help those people are racist, how's that for doubling down. You guys over there have got to get past the elephant in the room, whether that's race or whether it is disadvantage, in fact I would say you have a whole herd of elephants in the room

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