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    Apr 26, 2008, 09:02 AM
    Is Obama Truly Pro-Israel?
    Is Obama Truly Pro-Israel? Think again! The following story is chilling indeed and one needs to know the important connection with Palestine and its supporters. This news item is quite clear. Obama will not be able to explain this one away with his usual smooth talking.

    Obama Served On Board That Funded Pro-Palestinian Group
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    Apr 26, 2008, 09:05 AM
    He's not pro America either. He's not pro Israel by a long shot. He's just trying to pull the wool over our eyes flip flopping his pro this and pro that.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 09:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
    He's not pro America either. He's not pro Israel by a long shot. He's just trying to pull the wool over our eyes flip flopping his pro this and pro that.
    Exactly my point! And this coming from a Jewish source!
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    Apr 26, 2008, 10:37 AM
    This man has so many issues, with the things that have come to light in the past few months, and given the fact that Hamas SUPPORTS OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT OF THE USA ought to scare the crap out of all of us, even those that think he is the answer to all our problems.

    As I said before though, as a conservative, we have NO good choice for this election.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 08:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Exactly my point! And this coming from a Jewish source!

    Oh? So that' why Obama receives heavy support from the Jewish communities in Illinois and the recent Pennsylvania primary. I've got news for you displaced Arabs calling themselves Palestinians need to eat also. The money from the fund didn't go to weapons and they are not the first organization that wanted my people, the Jews of Israel, dislodged from the homeland. Numerous proclaimed Christian pastors, mostly of far right wing persuasion, preach replacement theology that in effect damns all Jews. This is just another reason why the majority of Jews, like Blacks, are registered Democrat.

    Obama is supportive of the Israeli State remaining as is; right to existence. Obama understands the rights the Israeli government has to protect (defend) itself. Jews have always had a continuous presence in Israel, although the migration populace swelled significantly due to the holocaust and eventually brought about the current government. The Palestinian/Israeli conflict-relations issue has been subject of every U.S. presidency going back some fifty plus years. Carter is commonly understood to be the least outwardly supportive of Israel. Clinton (Bill), backed off his pro-Israel support after entering office causing concern among Jewish communities here in the States. Bush, like many politicians before him, has made a late cosmetic pilgrimage to Israel in hopes of striking up the peace band. Personally one of my favorite presidents that held strong support for Israel (and Jews in general) was LBJ, whom my grandmother knew as a collegian. As an American, my hope is that Obama (or any of the candidates) make good on their campaigned support of Israel. I say this not only in protection of Jews living in Israel, but knowing that the Israeli govt made accommodations for a very long time trying to integrate Palestinians to be productive in society. Of course that didn't work out so well when the PLO stirred the masses and called for the annihilation of Israel. But L-rd knows the Israeli govt tried. In conclusion, Obama knows that the State of Israel is an ally that bolsters our US presence in the Mid-East region.
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    Apr 27, 2008, 08:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Is Obama Truly Pro-Israel? Think again! The following story is chilling indeed and one needs to know the important connection with Palestine and its supporters. This news item is quite clear. Obama will not be able to explain this one away with his usual smooth talking.

    Obama Served On Board That Funded Pro-Palestinian Group
    It is indeed scary that HAMAS supports Obama! This is one factor that should weigh very heavily with every American voter as Obama's opposition will surely bring this out time and time again should he become the nominee. And then there is the Weather Underground, Wright, bitterness, gay agenda support, the flag pin issue, the National Anthem issue, local economic issues, etc. etc. still thorns at the side of Obama's candidacy. These are important issues his camp is hoping will just go away, disappear with the wind or be swept under the carpet but you can bet your bottom dollar that they won't! These are very valid issues and concerns facing any person wanting the nation's highest office! This nation has to feel secure from attacks from the outside as well as infrastructurally. The opposing party has already said they would eviscerate Obama on the Weather Underground matter, for one. But for those who continue to defend Obama, I would like to see them go up against the opposing party with some of the arguments they present here and see how far they would get! Any commitments?
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    Apr 27, 2008, 09:25 AM
    Obama was raised as a Muslem and now HAMAS supports Obama? And yet Babram tells us that he's pro-Jewish ? Got more trust then I have. I'm a registered Democrat but before I'd cast my vote for Obama I would vote the Republican ticket.
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    Apr 27, 2008, 11:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1
    Obama was raised as a Muslem and now HAMAS supports Obama? And yet Babram tells us that he's pro-Jewish ? .
    Sure speedball!! It is all about appealing to all races, groups and classifications of ALL people to secure the vote. Once in forget you, you, you and you and you... that's what its all about.
    Hmmmm maybe the hokey pokey IS what life is all about??
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    Apr 27, 2008, 02:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1
    Obama was raised as a Muslem and now HAMAS supports Obama? And yet Babram tells us that he's pro-Jewish ? Got more trust then I have. I'm a registered Democrat but before I'd cast my vote for Obama I would vote the Republican ticket.
    Two points here.

    1. Obama never was raised a Muslim (the word is spelled with an "i"), he is a Christian. If you are going to take on "BABRAM," you'll need to bring your "A" game.


    2. Being Jewish means that I scrutinize Obama more than you'll ever comprehend. More importantly Obama is not supporting Hamas, and neither is Jimmy Carter. Even a hefty percentage of Jews of Orthodox persuasion are counted among Obama supporters. :cool:


    Obama is supportive of the Israeli State remaining as is; right to existence. Obama understands the rights the Israeli government has to protect (defend) itself. Jews have always had a continuous presence in Israel, although the migration populace swelled significantly due to the holocaust and eventually brought about the current government. The Palestinian/Israeli conflict-relations issue has been subject of every U.S. presidency going back some fifty plus years. Carter is commonly understood to be the least outwardly supportive of Israel. Clinton (Bill), backed off his pro-Israel support after entering office causing concern among Jewish communities here in the States. Bush, like many politicians before him, has made a late cosmetic pilgrimage to Israel in hopes of striking up the peace band. Personally one of my favorite presidents that held strong support for Israel (and Jews in general) was LBJ, whom my grandmother knew as a collegian. As an American, my hope is that Obama (or any of the candidates) make good on their campaigned support of Israel. I say this not only in protection of Jews living in Israel, but knowing that the Israeli govt made accommodations for a very long time trying to integrate Palestinians to be productive in society. Of course that didn't work out so well when the PLO stirred the masses and called for the annihilation of Israel. But L-rd knows the Israeli govt tried. In conclusion, Obama knows that the State of Israel is an ally that bolsters our US presence in the Mid-East region.

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