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    Feb 25, 2013, 07:05 AM
    The sequester
    Hello:

    I've wondered WHY Democrats and Republicans can't come together. Then I remember how it was with my ex-wife.

    Will cutting 3% of the budget cripple us as Obama says, or are we going to cruise? Before you say cruise, let me ask you this: If YOUR grocery store starts selling meat that ISN'T inspected, are you going to buy it??

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    Feb 25, 2013, 07:21 AM
    Rand Paul for 2 years in a row returned 20% of his operating budget back to the Treasury .

    Like the President ;you cite extreme examples to demagogue the issue. The world will not end with a 2% cut in the expected growth in spending . Let the President do his job and direct his staffers in the bureaucracy to trim 3% of the fat out of their budgets . But he won't do that because he thinks ,with the trillions in red ink... that we don't spend enough .
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    Feb 25, 2013, 07:26 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    Rand Paul for 2 years in a row returned 20% of his operating budget back to the Treasury .
    Rand Paul is running for president.

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    Feb 25, 2013, 08:06 AM
    Don't they inspect their meat in the UK?
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    Feb 25, 2013, 04:45 PM
    Maybe if you gave it a better name it would be understood, like cutting the budget that doesn't exist doesn't sound logical, how about the close shave, or towards smaller government, everyone can embrace that
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    Feb 26, 2013, 08:29 AM
    I think "The Big Lie" sounds appropriate.
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    Feb 26, 2013, 08:52 AM
    Hello again,

    The right wing FORGETS why they voted for Sequestration in the first place... It was DESIGNED to be SOOOO onerous, SOOOO bad, and SOOOO painful, that nobody in their right mind would LET it happen... It's a poison pill law. NOBODY wanted it to go into effect. That's why they wrote it in the first place.

    And THAT'S what the right wing forgets, because NOW they're saying the cuts are cool.. Liberals aren't saying that... They saying it'll be a DISASTER, which is what it's designed to BE, after all.

    What I DON'T understand, is how you could think they're cool, when there are NO cuts to entitlements, and PLENTY of cuts to defense?? ALL the other cuts will be in discretionary spending, like the TSA and the FDA. That'll mean longer lines at airports and UNINSPECTED meat in your local store...

    Me? I ain't going anywhere and I'll eat tofu till we regain our senses.

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    Feb 26, 2013, 09:15 AM
    More scare tactics. As much as I don't like the defense cuts, (defense has already been slashed by this administration that ONLY thinks defense cuts are cool) , the reality is that the defense dept could easily absorb the cuts with some management ;just like the rest of the government could survive a 2% cut in the rate of increase in spending with some basic management discipline. What is so scary is that even with these cuts ;the government will still be spending more than they did when it was proposed in 2011;and yet the left fear mongers them.
    Yes the food will still get inspected ;and yes the TSA will still grope at airports. These are all lies . Even the President is backing down from his "Howard Beale", "chicken little" act . He now admits that there will be very little immediate impact of the cuts.
    This is typical "Washington Monument ploy " .
    Washington Monument Ploy
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    Feb 26, 2013, 09:36 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    Yeah?? You talk a good story, but you ain't going to be buying any meat either.

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    Feb 26, 2013, 09:48 AM
    Currently,while the government is fully funded ,we still had spinach contaminated ;peanut butter contaminated and many other incidents of similar contaminations .Every day in the US about 200,000 people become sick, 900 are hospitalized due to symptoms related to food poisoning . Annually ,food poisoning kills 5,000 people, and sends 325,000 to the hospital each year.
    So I should be worried now that the inspection process can be any worse ?
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    Feb 26, 2013, 09:54 AM
    You may have a point ex if Obama wasn't fear mongering about his own plan. Or are you saying he's too dumb to understand the consequences of his own policies?
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    Feb 26, 2013, 10:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    So I should be worried now that the inspection process can be any worse ?
    Yes!
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    Feb 26, 2013, 10:13 AM
    Of course. Obviously the ag industry has a huge stake in injuring or killing off their customers. Isn't it the FDA that says nothing wrong with the pink slime everyone freaked out over?
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    Feb 26, 2013, 10:17 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Or are you saying he's too dumb to understand the consequences of his own policies?
    I'm not sure you quite understand the Sequester.. It is NOT a policy.. It's a poison pill that they SAID nobody in their right mind would LET happen. When I say they, I mean EVERYBODY!! It was MEANT to FORCE them to come to an agreement. It didn't.

    And, NOW it's going to happen.. Because the Republicans are happy with the cuts... I don't know WHY... It doesn't cut entitlements, and makes deep cuts in defense.. I don't why any respectable right wing would like that.

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    Feb 26, 2013, 10:32 AM
    Except that the Repubics already ponied up with the tax increases the President wanted. He's reneging on his end of the deal.
    The Dems are using the wrong deal to bargain on loop holes . If they want that ,then it should be in connection with an overhaul of the whole income tax system... a trade for simplification ,flattening ,and rate reduction.
    As for entitlements... tell me when the Dems were ever in favor of entitlement cuts .
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    Feb 26, 2013, 10:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I'm not sure you quite understand the Sequester.. It is NOT a policy.. It's a poison pill that they SAID nobody in their right mind would LET happen. When I say they, I mean EVERYBODY!!! It was MEANT to FORCE them to come to an agreement. It didn't.

    And, NOW it's gonna happen.. Because the Republicans are happy with the cuts... I dunno WHY... It doesn't cut entitlements, and makes deep cuts in defense.. I don't why any respectable right wing would like that.

    excon
    Ah, so Obama was just bluffing. Well that's a pretty stupid way to run a country. I didn't drink the Koolaid like you did.

    Besides what tom said, it doesn't CUT spending at all. And funny how Pew/WaPo missed offering the real culprit as a choice in a recent survey...



    Senate Dems haven't passed a budget in nearly 4 years and have no plan to avoid sequestration. Had they passed a budget like the House it would have gone to committee and been worked out and the sequester would not be an issue. That's a fact, Jack.
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    Feb 26, 2013, 11:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Of course. Obviously the ag industry has a huge stake in injuring or killing off their customers. Isn't it the FDA that says nothing wrong with the pink slime everyone freaked out over?
    Here is the Federal regulations of the ag industry in a nut shell :
    Manure Management Planner (MMP) of the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA is part of the Comprehensive Nutrient Management Plan (CNMP) which is required of farmers with Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs.)



    CNMP planners are strongly encouraged to use Manure Management Planner(MMP) because it was designed to simplify and hasten the CNMP development process. MMP was developed on a state-by-state basis to include each state’s unique data and circumstances important to CNMP development and acceptance by state authorities. MMP automates the generation of high quality CNMP reports
    .

    USDA NRCS - Natural Resources Conservation Service
    Imagine the savings getting rid of cr@P like that !
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    Feb 26, 2013, 12:17 PM
    Along a country road in southern Oklahoma, there is a place that doesn't make sense. It is an airport without passengers.

    Or, for that matter, planes.

    This is Lake Murray State Park Airport, one of the least busy of the nation's 3,300-plus public airfields. In an entire week here, there might be one landing and one takeoff — often so pilots can use the bathroom. Or none at all. Visiting pilots are warned to watch out for deer on the runway.

    So why is it still open? Mostly, because the U.S. government insists on sending it money
    In Oklahoma, tiny airport attracts federal money, but few planes - The Washington Post
    Bet you would have no wait at this airport's TSA line. Maybe this is one of the Air Traffic controller towers the President is threatening to shut down.
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    Feb 26, 2013, 01:21 PM
    Nah, he'll make sure the cuts are as painful as possible so he can blame Republicans for hating kids and poisoning you with tainted meat.

    P.S. White House Report Claims Sequestration Will Affect Federal Department That No Longer Exists
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    Feb 26, 2013, 02:13 PM
    I left out Obama unleashing illegals on our streets because we can't afford to enforce immigration laws and how Republicans refuse to protect us from terrorists.

    Can this administration possibly be any more shameless and derelict? I don't want to know the answer to that...

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