In response to a very un-Christian idiot in Florida, the Mullahs in Afghanistan have advised turning the other cheek... er, stirring the masses to violence.

Thus far, only 20 killed.

Is this suppose to be surprising? When the people act like drones and are so uneducated that they can't see the nose on their face what do you expect. Maybe they should light up korans all around the city and as they come to protest shoot them and put them out of their misery.

At the risk of being politically incorrect, dad... LOL.

Do you think it is posible someone over there can take that idiot preacher out behind the church and teach him some manners, you don't throw petrol on a fire. We all know the quoran is crap but it does no good to stir up the Muslims

Hello again, Steve:

Again?? AGAIN?? Actually we invaded THEIR country. But, you bring up an interesting dichotomy. We say we're not at war with Islam, but if you were them, as uneducated as dad says they are, when this jerk off burns a Koran, wouldn't YOU think they are making war on your religion?? You WOULD, and you WOULD respond.

Then you have the temerity to slam them for their religion of "peace". What the Afghans did, SHOULD have been, and WAS expected. In my view, the jerk off pastor should be arrested for the deaths HE caused in Afghanistan. You CAN'T yell fire in a crowded theater. That's what he did. ARREST THE BASTARD!

excon

That will never happen so long as we have all the other crap to deal with like this :

Veterans outrage as grave protests linger

I know it's strange to you, Clete, but he has the right to be an idiot. What's the mullah's excuse?

Hello again, clete:

No, WE don't! It's no more crap than the stupid book YOU worship. In fact, your book is FULL of killing and maiming... I haven't read it for a while, but doesn't it say stuff like someone who doesn't honor their mother and father SHOULD BE KILLED?? I think it DOES.

excon

Dude, people have been burning bibles and making war against my religion for a long time. Thus far I haven't incited any violence or killed anyone over it... which along with the fact that Christians aren't making human bombs of 12 year olds, flying planes into skyscrapers or chanting "death to Iran" in the name of Jesus, is why I have the temerity to slam them for their "religion of peace."

No, he provoked unnecessarily and he's an idiot, but our constitution gives him and those Phelps folks the right to be idiots. Yelling fire in a crowded theater would be burning the koran in Afghanistan, which if he really had any convictions is what he'd do.

While I agree in part with your statement. Lets look at the fact here. The book burning took place 2 weeks ago. And just now they are getting around to responding to it? Its nothing like a crowded theater.

I don't agree with the inciteful nature of the book burning itself. But I do believe in calling a spade a spade. Nazism was at its heart a religion albeit an occult one in nature. So keeping quiet about a situation doesn't always aide in its eradication. That being said I believe we should point out the shortcomings when it comes to the mixed statement of Islam. In today's times there is no reason for religions not to live in coexistance and to fight out the ideoligy through peaceful means of education. But that is not the islamic way. In times of old that area of the world was a great wonder and education. Many roots in science and astronomy have ties directly to that area and those of writing. Its not that we are dealing with dumb people we are dealing with a society of peoples that have been dumbed down through the ages by a certain religion. Its high time for a wake up and I believe that is why we are seeing such an upsurge at this time. But in reality they did attatck a school for women during the protest. They need to figure out how to raise the bar and everyone will benefit from it. This may only be a spark that starts a huge fire.

Hello again, Steve:

So, you AGREE that burning your religious book IS an act of war on your religion. I figured as much.

Besides, your legal analysis is faulty. You cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theater, because doing so WILL cause unnecessary death. The physical distance between the deaths that occurred, and the speech that caused it, is irrelevant.

Arrest that BASTARD!

excon

Ex, your analogy is faulty. He didn't yell fire, he provoked, there was no incitement of panic. Muslims had a choice with a long to think about it before deciding on their response. They chose violence and death against others that had nothing to do with Jones.

Hello again, Steve:

My friend, you should stick to politics and baseball, and leave the law to me. The term "yelling fire" is a metaphor. In this country it's illegal to utter ANY speech that causes death. Panic and incitement are NOT required.

excon

Hello again, Steve:

I don't know if you edited or I missed it, but in any case, what you say above would be an EXCELLENT defense in his murder trial - OK, his manslaughter trial.

excon

I understand metaphors, ex, why do you guys keep trying to tell I don't understand? I don't understand fantasy baseball yet, and I made that clear, but I understand metaphors.

From Holmes' opinion: The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.

As far as I know, Jones, moron that he may be, did not incite panic or create an unconstitutional clear and present danger. And trust me, I don't condone what he did and don't like the fact that he'll be here campaigning for our own moron that wants to be mayor... our mayoral race is right out of an SNL skit but that's another story. But, there is only one religion responding to every perceived insult with violence, murder and mayhem, you want to excuse them still?

Hello again, Steve:

In MY opinion, you can't say to a crowd that X needs to be killed - even if X's eventual killer had lots of time to consider his actions. Plus, speaking those words didn't create a present danger, yet if those words are acted upon, the speaker WILL be guilty of a crime.

Was O'Reilly guilty because he called Dr. Tiller a baby killer? No. If he said Tiller should be SHOT, you betcha.

Who is this Holmes guy, anyway?

excon

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. the man that wrote the majority opinion where that phrase was made famous.

I didn't know Jones called for X to be killed, did he?

I find it strange Ex if someone attacks you you go ape and try to bomb them out of existence but let one of you give offence to a large part of the world's population you say he has a right to do so. What you are telling me is you all think you have a right to behave like idiots. Only an idiot thinks they have a right to behave like an idiot. Burning the Quoran wasn't free speech, your constitution doesn't give him the right to defile someoneelse's religion, to be deliberately provocative. That is an idiot's view of what it says.

Hello clete:

I'm not quite sure what you're smoking, but I didn't say any of that.

excon

We have a really good line of Sifton Bush over here ex highly aromatic