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sonnic2719 · Feb 20, 2008, 10:54 PM

It came to my attention that Barrack Obama is not a fan of our pledge of allegiance. And doesn't wear the American Flag Pin (Which ALL people in office have worn since 9-11-2001 to show unity and remembrance of all who died on that terrible day).

This really speaks for itself.

YouTube - Barack Hussein Obama is a douche

Is this Patriotism?

Do you want your president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA not pledge allegiance to his country??

I AM OUTRAGED BY THIS, HOW ABOUT YOU?

mwilliams15 · Feb 20, 2008, 11:20 PM

NO I don't want him to be president. Plus he can't even think for himself, he stole other peoples speeches.

Why can't there be an amazing democratic candidate?. I was really pulling for edwards.. I don't want hillary or obama... or mccain.. (I've been raised a democrat.. I live in West Virginia lol)

I'd rather have hillary in there than obama though. At least her plan entitles united health care. Plus she'll wear a flag lol.

oneguyinohio · Feb 20, 2008, 11:33 PM

I'm outraged at the lack of time you have taken to investigate the information you are spreading. If you bothered to look, you'd find that Obama has often led the pledge of allegiance in congress.

As far as not wearing the pin as an empty symbol only to gain from the symbolism involved, more power to him for choosing to let his actions speak loud and clear.

"I'm less concerned with what you're wearing on your lapel than what's in your heart," Obama said while campaigning in Independence, Iowa.

"You show your patriotism by how you treat your fellow Americans, especially those who serve. And you show your patriotism by being true to your values and ideals. And that's what we have to lead with, our values and ideals," Obama said.

I think it's good that he isn't standing behind "tacky" symbolism that many choose by showing a flag with no real commitment in place of showing by actions.

oneguyinohio · Feb 20, 2008, 11:37 PM

People... you really need to look into things you hear... investigate both sides... especially with the internet, there's no reason, other than ignorance, to be blindly misled into spreading false information.

speechlesstx · Feb 21, 2008, 08:13 AM

This is a non-issue. But, his wife saying she's proud of her country for the first time in her adult life? That's not cool no matter how they spin it.

oneguyinohio · Feb 21, 2008, 08:49 AM

Don't you think having a spouse doing so well, and being supported by so many, would be enough to make you forget about anything else that had made you proud... I would think it would certainly feel like the proudest sensation to eclipse all others.

tomder55 · Feb 21, 2008, 08:56 AM

Michelle said something else even more revealing :

Barack Obama is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

He should start by demanding that she shed her cynicism.

speechlesstx · Feb 21, 2008, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by oneguyinohio

Don't you think having a spouse doing so well, and being supported by so many, would be enough to make you forget about anything else that had made you proud... I would think it would certainly feel like the proudest sensation to eclipse all others.

Nope. I'm pretty good about sticking my foot in my mouth and I can't imagine a time I would ever utter those words... especially in her position.

speechlesstx · Feb 21, 2008, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Michelle said something else even more revealing :

Barack Obama is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

That sounds awfully demanding, I thought he was supposed to "inspire" us. And they whine about Bush's power trip? This guy is going to "demand" things from us and "never allow" us to exercise our constitution right to be cynical, isolate ourselves and live our lives as usual? I think you mentioned this before but nonetheless here is more of what Michelle said:

We have lost the understanding that in a democracy, we have a mutual obligation to one another -- that we cannot measure the greatness of our society by the strongest and richest of us, but we have to measure our greatness by the least of these. That we have to compromise and sacrifice for one another in order to get things done. That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation.

He's apparently running for Messiah.

Dark_crow · Feb 21, 2008, 12:09 PM

American Politics has been made into the filthiest, most morally objectionable and despicable event in modern history. No holds barred lies are perfectly acceptable. Who in their right mind can say they approve of what is going on. The thing I find interesting is that some American Citizens wholly approve of it and become participants in the lies by spreading them. God bless America because I won't, and like Michelle I haven't see much in the last 30 years to inspire my applause. I give my allegiance to no one, neither flag nor country… but to the American Constitution. So you may call me un-America too by your standards.

shygrneyzs · Feb 21, 2008, 12:33 PM

Steal a speech? Gimme a break already. Even Glen Beck defended Barack on that one and Glen is a conservative. You have been listening to the Hilary campaign and liberal media too long if you believe everything you hear. Research!!

mwilliams15 · Feb 21, 2008, 03:12 PM

Believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want. P.S. Glenn is and independent.

Take up who you want to take up for... but it isn't going to change my opinion of Obama.. I don't like him. He isn't going to do anything for my State. I don't think he's inspirational.. I don't think anyone running is inspirational..

I am entitled to my own opinions based on RESEARCH that I have done through campaign sites. So stop getting all immature and snappy just because people don't agree with you.

Now I'm going to unsubscribe from this question because I'm not arguing with someone I do not know =)

Dark_crow · Feb 21, 2008, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by mwilliams15

He stole a speech.. Glenn beck is an independent.. like omg RESEARCH lol.

To steal is to take something with-out consent of its owner… this was not the case. And it was not the speech it was a couple of lines.

Fr_Chuck · Feb 21, 2008, 03:24 PM

I am about the last person who wants to see him as President but that is because of his liberal ideas. But even the most left wing talk show hosts have defended him against all of the bull about not using a bible to swear in and about the pledge. It is merely a lie that someone wants spread, my guess Hillary wants it spread since the Republican side has defended him from the lies.

shygrneyzs · Feb 21, 2008, 03:36 PM

I said Glen Beck is a conservative. Which is true, no mention of political party - Ms. Williams.

George_1950 · Feb 21, 2008, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by mwilliams15

NO i don't want him to be president. Plus he can't even think for himself, he stole other peoples speeches.

Why can't there be an amazing democratic candidate?... I was really pulling for edwards.. I don't want hillary or obama... or mccain.. (I've been raised a democrat.. i live in west virginia lol)

It's OK to be from West Virginia and to be raised a Democrat; one of the nice things about America is, we get to grow up, mature, and make our own choices. Just be aware that when you are voting for someone like Hillary who promises universal healthcare, that it isn't free and that socialist/fascist healthcare doesn't work anywhere. Just imagine going to the postoffice for your healthcare; makes me sick thinking of it.

shygrneyzs · Feb 21, 2008, 03:56 PM

In HIlary's world, if one does not want to sign up for the universal healthcare, what are the consequences to that person? I had heard, on CNN, about Hilary's proposals for enforcement. The Washington Post also reported it, using garnishment of wages as a method of enforcement. Then I saw the following article:
Hillary Clinton's Universal Health Care Plan: Buy Health Insurance or Else!
If one article is not enough, here is another:
Clinton Discusses Universal Health Care Enforcement Options - Horserace

NeedKarma · Feb 21, 2008, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by George_1950

someone like Hillary who promises universal healthcare, that it isn't free and that socialist/fascist healthcare doesn't work anywhere.

Liar liar pants on fire! I'm in Canada and we're loving our healthcare here. Stop trying to scare people.

George_1950 · Feb 21, 2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by shygrneyzs

In HIlary's world, if one does not want to sign up for the universal healthcare, what are the consequences to that person? I had heard, on CNN, about Hilary's proposals for enforcement. The Washington Post also reported it, using garnishment of wages as a method of enforcement. Then I saw the following article:
Hillary Clinton's Universal Health Care Plan: Buy Health Insurance or Else!
If one article is not enough, here is another:
Clinton Discusses Universal Health Care Enforcement Options - Horserace

Thank you for putting this up! They are called "liberals"; they disgrace the word, liberal. They are statists, fascists, and will not stop until we live in a police state.

George_1950 · Feb 21, 2008, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Liar liar pants on fire! I'm in Canada and we're loving our healthcare here. Stop trying to scare people.

And we hear story after story of healthcare rationing in Canada and Canadians coming to the US for treatment; not many stories of Americans going to Canada for physician services; I've never heard one, ever.