Check this, if you dare: He ventured forth to bring light to the world | Gerard Baker - Times Online

Yes, George. Obama's going to reveal that his real name is "Damien," and that his presidential library will contain all The Omen sequels. :eek:

Exactly as in topics "Obama did it again" and "Anyone else think the Obama Christmas and birthday routine a bit odd" :

This topic provides a good view on the level (and lack) of real arguments against Obama.

What a hypocrisy going on here...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Yes, there is 100's of great things against him, from his far left beleifs, his socialist values, his tax us to death and so much more.

Maybe the people posting these really are for him and just want to take the opinion off the real issues of how bad Obama really is.

It is just a tongue in cheek essay written by an American, working for the London Times.

I thought it was very well done, and so close to how this guy is being viewed by his followers.

It is pretty darn funny, if you take the time to read it.

I thought it was brilliant. Good to see someone across the Atlantic has a sense of humor about the appearance of the Obamessiah... unlike the perpetually outraged thin-skinned among us.

The number of his supporters, defending him, here, has really dropped?

Seems to match the way he is falling in the polls too?

Progunr-

Perhaps their getting tired of the neanderthal accusations. There's what, maybe six or seven steady supporters here for McCain and I wouldn't be surprised if two or three of the user names are the same individual. About half of the anti-Obama posts are by simpletons seeking attention.

This is twice recently that you claimed the polls are dropping for Obama. That is outright false information... again. Obama has actually increased in the national average: RealClearPolitics Poll Averages. One of the newer polls, the NBC/WSJ Poll has the status unchanged in the last month, but when they factored in third party candidates, Obama clearly is kicking McCain's tuchus.

What I would like for someone to explain is how, with all the possibilities we had to begin with, we wound up with the 2 worst possible candidates for president. It ain't supposed to work that way.

You mistake me for a McCain supporter, I am not.

Yeah, if you call a one point lead kicking "tuchus" then you are accurate.

I just can't stand the thought of this radical elitist sneaking his way into the White House,
He is NOT what this country needs.

Not by a long shot.

One the most rational statements I've read from you lately.



I do. I value reading comprehension skills. There's only one major poll in the nation that had Obama by the slim lead of one point and the average is a larger margin of 3.2 using the RCP formula, which needs to be updated: RealClearPolitics Poll Averages. Even the Gallop poll, which was reported by Fox has Obama by an eight point lead as of today: Gallup.com

Here' yet another overview of several polls: 2008 Polls - Presidential Election, Latest Political - Democratic Candidate Poll - Tracking Current




Did it bother you the last eight years? The past sixteen years? Or the twelve years before that? How about this? Provide an argument that Obama, whom is not even elected president yet, is more of an elitist than the presidents of the past twenty-eight years. Let's compare notes.

Just the way he speaks about our Nation, and the people in general who live here, and how his beliefs and policies are what the Country Needs.

Comments like "clinging to guns and religion" or his "apology" for the "mistakes" our Nation has made while speaking in a foreign country are pretty good examples.

The arrogance of not even being able to admit he was wrong about the surge, and in the same breath stating, that we need a "surge" in Afghanistan.

His comments that he would have preferred a more "gradual" increase in gas prices, not that we should be doing ANYTHING to bring them back down, in fact, he wants to do nothing but watch it go to his estimate of $12.00 a gallon, hell, he's happy about the price of gas now without ANY regard as to how it is effecting the majority of Americans or our economy.

He is the most liberal member of the United States Senate, and the most radical.

He plans to cover all the illegal immigrants with his Health Care Plan, while saying that he does not. All you have to do is figure the math in his estimate of how many people are without insurance, and how many his plan will cover, you will discover that his number includes ALL the illegals while his mouth says I'm not covering any illegal immigrants in the plan.

While I'm not a Bush fan, I'm not a McCain fan either.

I do know that the possible damages and problems that may be brought upon this Nation are far greater under an Obama Administration than under ANY Republican Administration.

Anyone who wants America to be more Socialist, closer to Marxist or Communist, or who wants a bigger government, unbelievably higher taxes, and believes that the governments duty is to take from those who have more, to give to those who have less, is welcome to support this candidate.

It won't be me.

Bull-Tonga! That's what every politician has spoken since the beginning of our nation.

His security officers are armed, very likely with .40's or 9's, and I'd bet most of them have a religious preference, most likely Christian.

The Lock and Key: Barack Obama's San Francisco Speech: Commentary and Transcript

"He was not at that time talking about the healthy role of religion as a way of providing meaning, but the crass self-grouping that leads to intolerance, further anger, and social ills."

I think we should apologize for the mistakes of our nation. An admittance to faults is one step closer to corrective measures, or not repeating history. Good for Obama!

As is McCain, Obama has been and can be wrong on various issues. But that's not being an elitist. I understood his view to mean that the displacement of anti-American loyalists can converge back in Iraq, but that our focus should be in Afghanistan.

Huh? That's a new one. Thanks for the chuckle. I'd like to see the blog or article commentary that teaches that nonsense.


Yes and no. Yes, Obama's a liberal. And he probably is the most liberal according to his voting record, although on some issues more conservative than moderate Republicans. No, there are other radicals (depending on the issue), just as radical representing both major parties.


From my understanding that is correct. And his tag team partner on the issue is none other than "John McCain," who has promised amnesty to illegals. Obama's stance on health care coverage, which ideally would be nice, not necessarily practical, is not an argument for elitism though.

LOL! Listen! I'm a social conservative, as is most Americans to some degree. That's a fact. As for the "Marxist," "Communist" spill, I've heard that rhetoric from both sides of the political aisles going back decades. We are not going to become a utopia no matter whom the elected official is, Obama included. People thinking otherwise is fooling themselves. Even McCain admitted it would take him two terms to dig us out of the hole Bush put us into (which ironically would be more of the same).

OK.

Here is the quote, from a very Liberal web site, I believe the Huffington Post.

Here's what Obama actually said:

HARWOOD: So could these high prices help us?

Sen. OBAMA: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that this is such a shock to American pocketbooks is not a good thing. But if we take some steps right now to help people make the adjustment, first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers, then I think ultimately, we can come out of this stronger and have a more efficient energy policy than we do right now.

You could have found this easily with a simple Google search, but, I'm always happy to help you folks find the truth.

Here is a link that addresses his $12 a gallon gas comments:

$12 a gallon of gasoline: the real scare - Vass - Politics, Current events and more from an African American view

It is by no means the ONLY one, there are plenty if you want to do a quick search for more reading.

As to your comment regarding Obama's security carrying guns... you lost me on that... as it has NO relation what so ever to the comment he made?

And finally, I was WELL AWARE that you are a socialist LOL! You really didn't need to say so, your posting history is a dead giveaway.

Well! Whoop-tee-do! Not an ounce of elitism in his comment what-so-ever. Wages are not keeping up with inflation and we need technology. I agree with Obama.



"You folks?" Are you being an elitist? :eek: BTW I've read some of the "truths" posted here and word to the wise, don't believe everything posted, or sent to you by email.

That's it? And I guess you've never heard that necessity is the mother of invention? The article is articulated in way to scapegoat Obama for higher oil prices. How ignorant of a rant that turned out to be. Bwa ha ha ha!

Hey guy if you don't want to reference your propaganda, than that's on you. It only benfits you to back your smack up.


If you're lost, than how do you know it has no relation to the comment? Perhaps you're just lost? I'm saying it's not a blanket statement toward everybody that's ever owned a firearm or is religious.


Newsflash! I'm not alone. There are many Americans that are social conservatives to some degree... you're not at all?? Why are you not a into Social conservatism, "progunr?" Are you now against protecting second amendment rights? Perhaps you should consider an new user name. BTW, just a side note, but I also do accept some of the concepts of economic Social democracy.

Those of you who think they are the "worst possible candidates" are a minority. Yes, it is supposed to work that way.

[Quote=BABRAM]Well! Whoop-tee-do! Not an ounce of elitism in his comment what-so-ever. Wages are not keeping up with inflation and we need technology. I agree with Obama.[end quote]
OK
So now it's No Drill Obama/BABRAM
No Nuclear Obama/BABRAM
No expansion of coal Obama/BABRAM
No lower gas prices, only higher Obama/BABRAM

[Quote=BABRAM]"You folks?" Are you being an elitist? BTW I've read some of the "truths" posted here and word to the wise, don't believe evrything posted.[end quote]

NO.
What the heck is elitist about "you folks"?

[QUOTE=BABRAM]That's it? And I guess you've never heard that necessity is the mother of invention? That clowns view in the article is to scapegoat Obama for higher oil prices. Bwa ha ha ha![end quote]

OK.
What exactly, has your candidate actually said HE would do, to bring the prices down?
It's OK, that was a trick question. We already know that he is happy about the high prices and has NO plans to do ANYTHING, that would lower the price at the pump.

[QUOTE=BABRAM]Hey guy if you don't want to reference your propaganda, than that's on you. It only benfits you to back your smack up.[end quote]

Again, OK.
And just exactly how does it benefit me, to provide you, with the sources of anything I post?

[QUOTE=BABRAM]Newsflash! There are many Americans that are social conservatives to some degree... you're not at all?? Why are you not a into Social conservatism, "progunr?" Are you now against protecting second amendment rights? Perhaps you should consider an new user name. BTW I also do accept the concepts of economic Social democracy.[end quote]

Finally, OK.
It is obvious, by the support of this candidate, that many Americans are socialists. I give you credit for standing up for what you believe in, and I will continue to do the same.

Edited to make it easier for BABRAM to tell the difference between what he said and what I said.

Good point! For all practical purposes the two major parties have a monopoly.

Huh? Progunr, you're in such a hurry you didn't tag the end quotes. Go back and do that so I can try and make sense of that mess.

I can see where that might confuse you, that you wouldn't remember what you said vs. what I said.

It does take a little more attention to detail to separate the two doesn't it.

I'll take care of it for you though, I love to help out.