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Wondergirl · Mar 1, 2019, 04:23 PM

As I've said before, I'm not a fan of Trump, but when I see....

The word BUT negates or cancels everything that goes before it. And is generally accepted as a signal that the really important part of the sentence is coming up.

When you use it, most people listening to you will give more attention and more weight to what you say after you say BUT.

jlisenbe · Mar 1, 2019, 04:55 PM

The word BUT negates or cancels everything that goes before it.

It can well signal contrast as well, as in, "I like steak, but I can also eat veggies." By no means did "but" negate or cancel my taste for steak. And no, I am not trying to lecture you. I am well aware of your knowledge of grammar.

So my point was that while I am not a fan of Trump, I am a fan of a person being consistent in his/her beliefs. To hate Trump for lying while being a loving and devoted fan of Obama, who lied as well, is inconsistency on a high level.

jlisenbe · Mar 1, 2019, 06:33 PM

This one made me laugh.

paraclete · Mar 1, 2019, 10:32 PM

Yep that will do it, admit she is a lying cheating dufus

talaniman · Mar 2, 2019, 05:58 AM

So my point was that while I am not a fan of Trump, I am a fan of a person being consistent in his/her beliefs. To hate Trump for lying while being a loving and devoted fan of Obama, who lied as well, is inconsistency on a high level.

You make a point JL, and thanks for the chuckle, but I don't hate the dufus, just his words, behavior, and policies. I think it's dubious though to compare his always lying ways to anyone else in the history of man. He seems to have a lot of liars around him also, and no doubt we may discover more. The right seems willing to ignore that fact, or the cabinet members that have left under scandals and investigations.

I imagine though that as another election rolls around the dirt and rhetoric will fly and there is still the Russians looming large, and hopefully he has learned how to protect his country from them which in itself is a daunting challenge for any president, especially if more countries follow their example.

paraclete · Mar 2, 2019, 05:21 PM

Tal what will you have to complain about when Trump is gone, hell, once Mueller is gone you will have nothing to complain about because there is nothing to see here, just the angst of a tired old woman and a tired old party

jlisenbe · Mar 3, 2019, 06:22 AM

Tal what will you have to complain about when Trump is gone, hell, once Mueller is gone you will have nothing to complain about because there is nothing to see here, just the angst of a tired old woman and a tired old party

It does increasingly seem that Mueller is spinning his wheels.

tomder55 · Mar 3, 2019, 07:26 AM

Don't worry ;if collusion didn't work it was simply a matter of moving the goal posts

http://www.wglt.org/post/cnn-legal-analyst-collusion-not-relevant-trumps-future#stream/0

talaniman · Mar 3, 2019, 08:15 PM

Darn links

CNN Legal Analyst: Collusion Not Relevant To Trump's Future | WGLT

@JL

You cannot ignore the corruption by dufus cronies, and interference by Russia that has been exposed and is, and has been prosecuted, nor assume that's all Mueller has. He has also turned over to other prosecutors what he has found. Now that the dufus sycophants have lost the house, a real investigation has begun, and real oversight has begun.

That's hardly spinning your wheels, or moving the goal posts and as we are learning collusion as the dufus hollers is but part of a bigger picture. Of course the dufus has sailed along with no accountability from repubs, but that's clearly not the case any longer, at least in the house. Elections do have consequences as another approaches.

paraclete · Mar 3, 2019, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Darn links

CNN Legal Analyst: Collusion Not Relevant To Trump's Future | WGLT

@JL

You cannot ignore the corruption by dufus cronies, and interference by Russia that has been exposed and is, and has been prosecuted, nor assume that's all Mueller has. He has also turned over to other prosecutors what he has found. Now that the dufus sycophants have lost the house, a real investigation has begun, and real oversight has begun.

That's hardly spinning your wheels, or moving the goal posts and as we are learning collusion as the dufus hollers is but part of a bigger picture. Of course the dufus has sailed along with no accountability from repubs, but that's clearly not the case any longer, at least in the house. Elections do have consequences as another approaches.

If CNN says it it must be true, you will just have to be more discerning next time, anyway, it was Hobson's choice so I don't know why you are complaining

jlisenbe · Mar 4, 2019, 04:31 AM

Tal's link included the following hilarious line: "He said Cohen's testimony did show potentially important possible crimes such as financial fraud by the Trump company, and campaign fraud."

You gotta love this stuff. "..potentially important possible crimes". In other words, "Maybe there were some possibly important activities that might have been crimes." Unreal.

talaniman · Mar 4, 2019, 04:59 AM

No it was Tom's link that referenced his moving the goalpost. Why is it such a stretch to think the dufus isn't a crook since you have evidence he has done shady stuff before, and hired shady people to work for him, both in private life and government?

jlisenbe · Mar 4, 2019, 05:22 AM

No it was Tom's link that referenced his moving the goalpost. Why is it such a stretch to think the dufus isn't a crook since you have evidence he has done shady stuff before, and hired shady people to work for him, both in private life and government?

Good morning.

I was referring to your link, not Tom's, the CNN link you posted above.

There is no legal definition of "shady", but if hiring shady people is a bad thing, then I don't know how you could have supported Obama. At any rate, both the Mueller probe and the several thousand democrat-dominated congressional investigations are just on a witch hunt now. There is no collusion, and even if there was, it is likely not a crime, so the Trump-haters have to cast a WIIDDDDEEEE net to try and find anything they can. It is a shameful display of political hatred. All honest liberal dems should be ashamed to watch such a spectacle.

tomder55 · Mar 4, 2019, 07:31 AM

AMERICA: "What is the Democrat Congress's plan for this week to serve the America people?"NADLER: "Investigate Trump."AMERICA: "What's the crime?"NADLER: "That's what we're investigating to find out..."

talaniman · Mar 4, 2019, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Good morning.

I was referring to your link, not Tom's, the CNN link you posted above.

There is no legal definition of "shady", but if hiring shady people is a bad thing, then I don't know how you could have supported Obama. At any rate, both the Mueller probe and the several thousand democrat-dominated congressional investigations are just on a witch hunt now. There is no collusion, and even if there was, it is likely not a crime, so the Trump-haters have to cast a WIIDDDDEEEE net to try and find anything they can. It is a shameful display of political hatred. All honest liberal dems should be ashamed to watch such a spectacle.

Compare the two links, mine and Tom's and you get the same article by CNN. It was a technical courtesy for everyone's benefit. The dems are doing nothing that the repubs have done in the past, so you must have been as ashamed of conservatives casting there nets then as you think I should be now, but I suspect you aren't, and you can rightfully KNOW, not assume, that neither am I.

I just hope we are better at OUR investigations than you guys were.

Originally Posted by tomder55

AMERICA: "What is the Democrat Congress's plan for this week to serve the America people?"NADLER: "Investigate Trump."AMERICA: "What's the crime?"NADLER: "That's what we're investigating to find out..."

See ABOVE! The American people deserve all the facts, just as you repubs wanted the American people to have all the facts about Obama and Hillary right?

paraclete · Mar 4, 2019, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

The American people deserve all the facts,

Obviously you don't know the definition of a fact, the american people deserve the truth, not fabrication and lies

the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.

talaniman · Mar 4, 2019, 03:46 PM

You won't get either truth or fact without an investigation. You sure won't get it from the dufus or his sycophants and the American people fired the local sycophants. FACT!

tomder55 · Mar 4, 2019, 04:56 PM

Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
(Lavrentiy Beria.;Stalin's pit bull)

paraclete · Mar 5, 2019, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

You won't get either truth or fact without an investigation. You sure won't get it from the dufus or his sycophants and the American people fired the local sycophants. FACT!

Interesting ideas on democracy and the system, the sycophants come with the president, only way to fire them is to fire the president, what the people fired are political opponents who may or may not have been supporters of the president, so get the facts and stop with the intrepretation

tomder55 · Mar 5, 2019, 06:36 PM

only a kangaroo court has an investigation without an undelying crime .