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    Dec 26, 2017, 04:49 PM
    Hey Tom, good to see your face around the place again.

    It's really simple Tom, you may be giving rich guys their money back, but the rest of us get crumbs. Hush money to look the other way. The thing about it is that there are no strings attached nor incentives for investments to stimulate the economy, nor any way other than speculation that will pay for those cuts, which makes it deficit spending to benefit, the richest, further widening the gap between corporate profit and wage inequality. It would seem to me if The Dufus would just come clean and say the best way to grow the economy is give rich guys Mo'Money than they already have (As in the trickle down theory which repubs worship), then at least that would be honest, and not this lie about MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUTS!

    The second and worst lie was he would get creamed with this bill, and rich guys would hate him. Nothing could be further from the truth, buy what should we expect from a con man. Do you really think those one time bonuses will translate into regular rise in wages? I don't, except in states that raised the minimum wage by law. Do you really think the multinationals will abandon their overseas sweatshops for the shores of America? I don't! As tight as the job market is you would think wages would be rising anyway and while a few percentage points is evident, it's not widespread across the spectrum.

    As it stands a deficit driven tax cut for the rich makes all the other things that need doing deficit spending also, such as the infrastructure bill, a lot more difficult, or funding FEMA after a disaster, or heaven forbid more wars that we can't pay for, or a recession(?). I have been telling repubs not to elect a business guy who makes bankruptcies his claim to fame, but you guys refuse to listen so here we go again.
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    Dec 26, 2017, 09:55 PM
    Ah Tal, the US needs a good bankruptcy, it hasn't had one in a while
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    Dec 27, 2017, 11:45 AM
    the only thing Tal has right is the deficit . But that is a spending problem ;not a taxing problem.

    the only thing Tal has right is the deficit . But that is a spending problem ;not a taxing problem.
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    Dec 27, 2017, 03:06 PM
    Yes 100% taxes wouldn't cure the debt problem
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    Dec 27, 2017, 04:53 PM
    Repubs only care about deficits during democratic presidencies, and have a history of spending like drunk sailors when they have the power. They weren't worried about deficits when they cut taxes, and have never done anything to cut deficits. Just the opposite is true historically, they ALWAYS add to the deficit even when we have a balanced budget which democrats always leave their republican successors.

    Repubs have never met a poor man, woman, or child, they couldn't not deny spending cuts. The disdain for the poor, and downtrodden, and unfortunate goes back to Roosevelt and beyond if I were to go that way. You cannot deny history unless you were trying to repeat it.
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    Dec 27, 2017, 07:59 PM
    It is all an illuminati plot

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