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    #1121

    Mar 19, 2013, 05:38 AM
    Hello:

    I don't know. If I had a choice between Harvard Law, where I'd learn CLS, or say Liberty University, or Trinity Law School, where I'd learn that homos aren't entitled to ANYTHING, I'd choose Harvard...

    That's just me.

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    #1122

    Mar 19, 2013, 06:04 AM
    Maybe I would too. But I'd go to Hillsdale college for my pre-law undergraduate studies 1st .
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    Mar 19, 2013, 06:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    I dunno. If I had a choice between Harvard Law, where I'd learn CLS, or say Liberty University, or Trinity Law School, where I'd learn that homos aren't entitled to ANYTHING, I'd choose Harvard...

    That's just me.

    excon
    I've met Falwell and he was nothing like the ogre he was made out to be, and I know many Liberty graduates - they aren't kooks either. I think a case can certainly be made that defending traditional marriage is a lot less onerous than defending the right to kill your baby.
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    #1124

    Mar 19, 2013, 06:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    That wasn't my criticism of Cruz. I understand that he is not arguing for an absolute right.

    My argument here is that Heller is of little value when arguing against bans and limitations for the future. I would argue this is because Heller is limited in its scope.

    To suggest Heller is somehow a link to first Amendment rights in terms of 'scope' is to fail to understand the difference between natural rights and civil rights
    I think my last question to you was "at the time of what"?
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    #1125

    Mar 19, 2013, 08:42 AM
    Colorado-based Magpul has stated that if Hickenlooper signs their new, unenforceable gun bill that they will begin to immediately leave the state and take hundreds of jobs with them as the bill bans the core of their business, gun magazines.

    Democrats offered them a bone to stick around, they can still make and sale their illegal to own magazines to other states - just export the death and destruction elsewhere. You just can't make this stuff up.

    A Colorado-based magazine manufacturer said it would leave the state if the new restrictions were passed, taking hundreds of jobs with it. Democrats tried to ease the concerns from Magpul Industries, saying the company can still manufacture higher-capacity magazines if they were sold out of state.

    Waller blasted Democrats on that amendment, saying it was hypocritical because they are telling the company "you can sell (magazines) at any other place where any of these tragic shootings have happened."

    Waller called the exemption "a monumental inconsistency in their thought process."
    Meanwhile, Texas and Pennsylvania have both made overtures to weapons manufacturers in hostile states, but Pennsylvania gets points on their pitch.

    Republican Rep Seth Grove, said “Pennsylvania is known all over the country for clinging to its guns, and it’s time that we use this reputation to our advantage.”
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    Mar 19, 2013, 09:23 AM
    "Other states woo Maryland's gun manufacturers
    Beretta USA contends gun control proposal may force it to leave Maryland.
    March 09, 2013|By Erin Cox, The Baltimore Sun

    As Maryland contemplates passing one of the nation's strictest gun laws, at least seven other states have courted its gun manufacturers, offering tax incentives and open arms elsewhere.

    The governor of Texas, West Virginia's House speaker and an Illinois congressman have written to Beretta USA officials, inviting a move and promising a better business climate if the 400-year-old Italian company chooses to abandon its U.S. headquarters on the Potomac. "

    Beretta could stay on the Potomac by moving a short distance to WV, where the legislature is working on or has already passed laws such as the ban on confiscation of weapons in emergency situations:

    From Charleston Daily Mail, March 10, 2013
    " (WV) Delegates are scheduled to vote Monday on a bill that would repeal such local gun ordinances as Charleston's limit of one handgun purchase per month, with the buyer required to wait 72 hours before getting the weapon. Of the 13 measures already passed by the House this session, one approved unanimously makes clear that the government cannot confiscate guns or ammunition during declared states of emergency and that citizens can sue if it tries. "
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    #1127

    Mar 20, 2013, 07:12 AM
    Well, that half wit lunatic Dian Feinsteins syphillus ridden brain that dreamed up the anti-American gun ban got shot down for a serious lack of support... only having maybe 40 of the needed 60 votes.

    Lets hope she continues to emulate her hero Hugo Chavez and contracts cancer that resistes treatment so she doesn't blight the human race much longer.
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    #1128

    Mar 20, 2013, 07:20 AM
    Hello smoothy:

    Obama doesn't care.. He's coming after your guns anyway, and he's going to put you in a FEMA camp. Don't worry. They have wi-fi.

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    Mar 20, 2013, 07:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello smoothy:

    Obama doesn't care.. He's coming after your guns anyway, and he's gonna put you in a FEMA camp. Don't worry. They have wi-fi.

    excon
    They can try... and a lot of them aren't going to see their friends and families again if they do.
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    #1130

    Mar 20, 2013, 12:49 PM
    Further news... Democrat lawmakers in an effort to show how just how stupid they are move to ban Idaho, Florida and Oklahoma because they look like guns when positioned correctly under existing zero tollerance policy.

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    #1131

    Mar 20, 2013, 02:00 PM
    Guns (or Pop Tarts) are not the problem:

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    Mar 20, 2013, 03:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Guns (or Pop Tarts) are not the problem:

    There are other inferences you could draw

    Less AA more HA equals less murder
    More whites equal more murder

    Solution move the AA population to Houston then the 5% whites and 8% AA will have no one to kill
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    Mar 20, 2013, 04:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    there are other inferences you could draw

    less AA more HA equals less murder
    more whites equal more murder

    solution move the AA population to Houston then the 5% whites and 8% AA will have no one to kill
    We can send them back to africa since so many of them can't seem to get over something that ended over 160 years ago... should make then happy to go home since so many of then aren't grateful to be here.
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    Mar 20, 2013, 05:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    We can send them back to africa since so many of them can't seem to get over something that ended over 160 years ago...should make then happy to go home since so many of then aren't grateful to be here.
    Strange thing about black people, they have long memories, but I thought that solution had already been tried; Liberia wasn't it? How did that work out for you?

    You have a problem; they have no place in your land because you really haven't shed the thinking that brought them there in the first place. I would like to send our indigenous back to India but we can't do that as we have many Indian migrants, We could hope the indians will teach the indigenous something about being industrious
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    Mar 20, 2013, 05:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    strange thing about black people, they have long memories, but I thought that solution had already been tried; Liberia wasn't it? how did that work out for you?

    You have a problem; they have no place in your land because you really haven't shed the thinking that brought them there in the first place. I would like to send our indigenous back to India but we can't do that as we have many Indian migrants, We could hope the indians will teach the indigenous something about being industrious
    Listen... its this simple... I owe them (the blacks) nothing. Zip, nada Zilch...

    My grandmothers immigrated here under Kaiser Wilhelm, meaning well AFTER 1900... and besides there are no freed slaves alive... nor children of freed slaves... or even grandchildren of freed slaves...

    Their destiny is in their own hands and is their own responsibility. They either face it or we will buy then a one way ticket to their homeland if they want it so bad... either way its shut up or get out.

    I have a bigger justification to being owed something from the English Government than any blacks are here...
    My grandfather (who immigrated here himself after WW1) and his family were abused and subjugated for far, far longer and far worse by the English in Ireland than the Blacks were here. But I don't think the Queen owes me anything.
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    Mar 20, 2013, 05:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Listen....its this simple...I owe them (the blacks) nothing. Zip, nada Zilch....

    My grandmothers immigrated here under Kaiser Wilhelm, meaning well AFTER 1900 ....and besides there are no freed slaves alive...nor children of freed slaves...or even grandchildren of freed slaves...

    Their destiny is in their own hands and is their own responsibility. They either face it or we will buy then a one way ticket to their homeland if they want it so bad...either way its shut up or get out.

    I have a bigger justification to being owed something from the English Government than any blacks are here....
    My grandfather (who immigrated here himself after WW1) and his family were abused and subjugated for far, far longer and far worse by the English in Ireland than the Blacks were here. But I don't think the Queen owes me anything.
    I'll put it to you this way my people have been here since 1822 and came as free settlers fleeing the troubles in Ireland. We don't owe the indigenous of this place anything, we didn't take anything from them and because we have been here long enough to be indigenous ourselves and in any case it is people like us who forged this nation, not the indigenous, who just roamed about. Show me an indigenous who can trace his family as far as I can, there aren't many. My people suffered centuries of attrition at the hands of the British and all we ask is they stay the hell away from here. Eureka forever

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