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NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2012, 11:57 AM

It is obvious this is their sole concern.

smoothy · Jun 13, 2012, 12:24 PM

Its Obvious the DNC's sole priority is to finish bankrupting the country... Obama already has a done a bang-up job wrecking it so far...

speechlesstx · Jun 13, 2012, 12:53 PM

And your point is what?

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2012, 01:26 PM

I'll go with the top comment on YouTube:

"Your top political agenda over the next two years should be to serve the American people, and to show some respect for a President who has put up with your obstructionist viewpoint for way too long."

The fact that some people see no fault with the stated top priority make them part of the problem, not part of the solution.

speechlesstx · Jun 13, 2012, 02:54 PM

Dude, nothing's going to get better as long as this amateur is in office, that's why the top priority is making him a one term president. We can't afford a second term.

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2012, 03:14 PM

So your thinking is that the Republicans will right the ship? You had 8 years of that and it only got worse... much worse.
Why can't the parties do what they are supposed to and serve the american people that elected them?

smoothy · Jun 13, 2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

So your thinking is that the Republicans will right the ship? You had 8 years of that and it only got worse...much worse.
Why can't the parties do what they are supposed to and serve the American people that elected them?

It was WAY better under Bush than its EVER been Under Obama... and nothing has improved, nothing... unless you are a Government leech... err "worker" that doesn't create a dime of wealth... only suck the actual productive 53% of the public that pay federal taxes dry.

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2012, 03:48 PM

The video was uploaded in Dec. 2010. So the GOP decided then that this was their top priority. Not jobs, not the economy, not the shrinking middle class, or education, or infrastructure, but political ideology.

smoothy · Jun 13, 2012, 04:29 PM

You mean like the DNC has done for years? If its been fine for the Obama administration and his supporters... then they have nothing to complain about..

Obamas entire agenda the last 3 years and 6 months has been blaming it all on Bush... he has nothing else... nothing at all.

tomder55 · Jun 13, 2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I'll go with the top comment on YouTube:

"Your top political agenda over the next two years should be to serve the American people, and to show some respect for a President who has put up with your obstructionist viewpoint for way too long."

The fact that some people see no fault with the stated top priority make them part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Lol ,the only purpose of a political party is to gain power ;to win elections and to get their agenda enacted .What McConnell said is one of the most self evident duh comments I can imagine. It also happens to be the correct position to take given how ruinious the Obama Presidency has been .

NeedKarma · Jun 13, 2012, 05:33 PM

Wow you guys are screwed if that's how you accept your politics. I guess you deserve what you get.

tomder55 · Jun 13, 2012, 07:12 PM

And you political parties don't exist to win elections ? Give me a break !

paraclete · Jun 13, 2012, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

and you political parties don't exist to win elections ? Give me a break !

Of course but there is a bigger picture, are you telling me the GOP has a true social agenda other than treading down the democrats?

TUT317 · Jun 14, 2012, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

a Government leech....err "worker" that doesn't create a dime of wealth...only suck the actual productive 53% of the public that pay federal taxes dry.

Hi Smoothy

Are we also talking about the managerial class as a whole. The bankers, technocrats (management and administration) consultants? You know the same types that are found overly represented in both government and private industries.

Tut

TUT317 · Jun 14, 2012, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

lol ,the only purpose of a political party is to gain power ;to win elections and to get their agenda enacted .What McConnell said is one of the most self evident duh comments I can imagine. It also happens to be the correct position to take given how ruinious the Obama Presidency has been .

Exactly. This is what non-representation is all about. When you get elected the bottom line is that you have to pay the pipers. Applies to both sides of politics. Time for a wake-up call or are we content to play the bitter courtiers?

Tut

paraclete · Jun 14, 2012, 03:26 AM

Yes non representative politics for the mindless majority

smoothy · Jun 14, 2012, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by TUT317

Hi Smoothy

Are we also talking about the managerial class as a whole. The bankers, technocrats (management and administration) consultants? You know the same types that are found overly represented in both government and private industries.

Tut

Big difference between a private sector worker (where if you continue to lose money you go out of business) vs. a government drone (where if you lose money... they give you a bigger budget next year, it is only tax dollars after all, not like its real money or anything).

Even if they do similar types of work.

I differentiate them from the peons that have essentially no skillset (or value) outside of the one little task they perform.

Not saying there aren't clueless managers... there are.. I've actually worked for a couple over the years... but if the peons knew half of what they think they know about everything... why don't they start their own business? (yes a few actually do)

excon · Jun 14, 2012, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

and you political parties don't exist to win elections ? Give me a break !

Hello tom:

There should be SOME governing in between elections, no?? I guess not.

Would it piss you off if/when the Democrats BLOCK everything President Romney tries to do? Have you considered that possibility? You know, what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.

excon

TUT317 · Jun 14, 2012, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Even if they do simular types of work.

I differentiate them from the peons that have essentially no skillset (or value) outside of the one little task they perform.

I see.So, even though they do similar jobs the private sector manager has a better overall understanding of the relationship between what he/she knows and what the company should do. In other words, the private sector manager can see the bigger picture. Whereas, the public sector manager only knows what they know in their area of expertize.

When it comes to managers in the private sector they have an expertize in most areas. Even though their background might be engineering they understand the legal side of operations. When it comes to finance their expertize in accounting would also come to the fore.

Would it not be the case that the modern large corporations require people who have expertize in specialized knowledge? Would it also not be the case that in order to benefit the company their job would be to exercise this expertize in that narrow area to gain a maximum result?

Modern organization are highly complex and involved. Gone are the days when 'the manager' goes around to each section and gives them the wisdom of their experience based on the fact that built the company from the ground up.

Tut

speechlesstx · Jun 14, 2012, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello tom:

There should be SOME governing in between elections, no??? I guess not.

Would it piss you off if/when the Democrats BLOCK everything President Romney tries to do? Have you considered that possibility? You know, what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.

excon

Dude, Obama is our very own Baghdad Bob...