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paraclete · Jul 10, 2011, 11:12 PM

Give us our own laws, say Islamic leaders | News.com.au
We have long known that Muslims would not be content to abide by the law of the land but calls for change have come sooner than expected. Muslims represent a small percentage of our population yet already they think that there are enough to change our laws.

The call is weird since it has begun with a call for no interest loans and as far as I'm concerned if a Muslim wants to lend money to another Muslim without charging interest I don't see he is breaking any law but it seems you can't have a simple solution to anything where Muslims are concerned. Look I'm all for relaxing divorce laws, if the relationship is bad, divorce by mutual consent seems OK but the Muslim system when one partner has the call, not really. So once again I can only say, if you don't like it here, please don't be unhappy, go back where you came from.

tomder55 · Jul 11, 2011, 03:38 AM

Al- Hijra

paraclete · Jul 11, 2011, 04:03 PM

Sorry Tom you have lost me what does Islamic New Year have to do with Islamic calls for their own laws to apply to islamic people in a secular state?

tomder55 · Jul 11, 2011, 04:28 PM

Yeah that's one meaning of the word . The other meaning is their doctrine of migration/infiltration. The Hijra itself was Mohammeds migration to Medina from Mecca .By the time Mohammed was finished ,Medina was ethnically cleansed.

It is the template that Muslims follow when they migrate to Dar-al-Harb. The trick is to concentrate Muslims in a neighborhood,suburb ,etc until the population grows to an extent that they can demand legal concessions regarding 'self rule'. In Europe today there are many areas of Sharia government effectively ruling inside some urban sections of the continent .

paraclete · Jul 11, 2011, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

yeah that's one meaning of the word . The other meaning is their doctrine of migration/infiltration. The Hijra itself was Mohammeds migration to Medina from Mecca .By the time Mohammed was finished ,Medina was ethnically cleansed.

It is the template that Muslims follow when they migrate to Dar-al-Harb. The trick is to concentrate Muslims in a neighborhood,suburb ,etc until the population grows to an extent that they can demand legal concessions regarding 'self rule'. In Europe today there are many areas of Sharia government effectively ruling inside some urban sections of the continent .

Yes I can really imagine Auburn (Western Sydney location of their main mosque)under Islamic rule I expect the Chinese and the Samoans will resist. Perhaps they can try it in Lakemba (lebanese) (site of a police station shot up by islamic militants) for the record this is not France and our attitude to hoards of migrants are quite different. As I have said before enough camel drivers already besides our cities don't have the urban density to facilitate a casbah

paraclete · Jul 19, 2011, 05:59 AM

Sharia whipping case: Sydney man's $60,000 bail order

Not so long ago some Muslims, some might say islamic extremists, took it upon themselves to chastise one of their number. This is what we can expect in any nation where sharia law is exercised, but this actually happened in a democratic country as far removed from sharia law as you might get.

Here is the real danger of even listening to the islamics, here is the real danger of having them in your midst. They have proven to be a law unto themselves

tomder55 · Jul 19, 2011, 04:14 PM

This is a convert... I wonder if he's having 2nd thoughts. At least he should consider going to Bahrain for a binge... that's where all the devout Saudi's go for a brew.
Whatever assault laws that you have in the books should be thrown at these vigilantes who would take the law in their own hands under the guise of religion.

paraclete · Jul 19, 2011, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Whatever assault laws that you have in the books should be thrown at these vigilantes who would take the law in their own hands under the guise of religion.

Two have already faced court Tom and undoubtedly they will be treated with the same lenency shown to other first time offenders.
Man whipped 40 times in home for breaching Islamic law - Telegraph the interesting part of this is that once again wahabiism rears its ugly head

paraclete · Jul 19, 2011, 10:31 PM

How sharia is really working in Australia as a shadow legal system - academic report | News.com.au
So the more we look at this the more we find Muslims thumb their noses at our laws. Don't think it is any different anywhere they settle, these people have a singlemindedness and arrogance that beggers belief. They are a minority and as a minority they should respect the laws of the nation they are in, but no they don't, starting with flouting the immigration laws by dropping in by boat without papers, then continuing customs unlawfull in this nation, and outright criminality, people smuggling, drug smuggling, taking over outlaw motorcycle gangs and involvement in organised crime, prostitution, drugs, gambling etc.

When you examine the reports of crime it is rare not to find a person with an ethnic name linking them to origins in Islamic countries, second on the list are those of indigenous origin but usually these are minor offenses. Both groups have great difficulty coming to grips with a simple concept so well known for centuries; when in Rome...