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    May 23, 2012, 07:29 AM
    FOX and Fuhrman
    Hello:

    Every time I turn to my favorite network, and they put Mark Fuhrman on as an "expert", I want to throw something at the TV... When I see a black man on the same panel as Fuhrman, I want to throttle him.

    Now, I LOVE FOX News, but Mark Fuhrman is no expert. He's the SINGLE reason OJ was acquitted for the murder of his wife and her friend, Ronald Goldman.. Right wingers like to blame the black community, but it's clear that Fuhrman was the reason. He was the LEAD detective in the case... He was caught LYING on the witness stand. Once he was caught LYING, nothing he said could be believed... And, a MURDERER went free.

    Fuhrman is a disgrace. He's a proven LIAR. He's a RACIST lowlife. And, he's an expert on FOX.

    Can somebody explain that to me?

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    May 23, 2012, 07:31 AM
    I think Fox News is for entertainment purposes only. That's what I've been told here, what with so many "opinion" segments.
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    May 23, 2012, 08:53 AM
    I couldn't care less what Furhman has to say, but no one can say with any grain of truth that Fox News does not consistently present multiple points of view, unlike MSNC which leans so far to the left the right side of my screen raises 3 inches just passing by on on-screen the guide.

    Just for you NK:

    “There are two parts to all news channels,” Ailes said. “One is the news — that’s Shep Smith, Bret Baier, what we do during the daytime. Every channel also does talk shows, opinion shows. You have to separate those in your mind because they are different.”

    “Rachel Maddow has a talk show, Sean Hannity has a talk show. They have different points of view,” Ailes explained. “The only difference between Fox and the shows on CNN and MSNBC is we invite liberals to participate constantly.”

    “Geraldine Ferraro was a contributor to Fox News for 10 years. [We have] Bob Beckel, Juan Williams. Dennis Kucinich is a frequent guest on Fox News.”

    Ailes described a programming philosophy that distinguishes his network from its competitors — one that revolves around news judgment, not with whether something is news or not.

    “When Abu Ghraib happened during the Bush administration, we carried that — full pictures, full board — 17 times,” he said. “Now, The New York Times had it, I believe, 44 times, on their front page. When I went to an editorial meeting one morning and said to the head of our news division, ‘Why aren’t we doing Abu Ghraib today?’ He said, ‘there’s no news.’

    “I said, ‘well the Times has got it on their front page,’ and he said, ‘that’s because it’s a political agenda for the Times. For us, we’re waiting for more news. Every time there’s news, we put it up full screen and lead the news shows with it.’ It’s just a different philosophy. Don’t cover it up, but don’t push it if there’s no news.”

    Read more: Ailes slams Fox critics, defends press freedom at Ohio forum | The Daily Caller
    There are no better news guys out there than Bret Baier and Shephard Smith, and I doubt anyone at MSNBC would allow a conservative to guest host their show as O'Reilly does on a regular basis with Juan Williams. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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    May 23, 2012, 09:13 AM
    Hello Steve:

    All the other stuff you brought up is what you call straw men... I know you LIKE FOX. I like Shep and Brett too. But, this isn't about them. It's about Mark Fuhrman, a RACIST, LYING, DISGRACED cop, and WHY FOX adores him.

    It's true. MSNBC is liberal, but they don't put on confirmed LIARS as experts.. In fact, I don't think MSNBC has any felons who have their own shows, like Liddy and Ollie. Not only does FOX adore LYING cops, it LOVES excons too. Maybe I can get a job over there.

    But, back to Mark Fuhrman. Should HE be considered an EXPERT and put on TV??

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    May 23, 2012, 09:33 AM
    I can't explain why any of the crooks and liars are on TV. Eliot Spitzer got a gig on CNN hosting a show until it was canceled and then went to work for the Goracle after another liar, Olbermann, was fired for the umpteenth time. But I addressed your concern off the bat, I said I don't care what Fuhrman has to say, but I don't automatically disqualify someone because they're ex-convicts. Hint, hint.

    The rest wasn't a straw man, it was for NK's benefit.
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    May 23, 2012, 09:42 AM
    Is he an expert ? Maybe the Moxley family can answer that question.
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    May 23, 2012, 10:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Is he an expert ?
    Hello Tom:

    He MIGHT be an expert. He's ALSO a LYING, RACIST cop. I'll bet they could find OTHER experts that aren't LYING, RACIST cops. But, they chose THIS one. Why?

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    May 23, 2012, 11:05 AM
    Got me . Why does MSNBC give a show to a lying racist like Al Sharpton ?
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    May 23, 2012, 11:09 AM
    It's not really "they," it's pretty much Hannity. Why don't you ask him?

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    May 26, 2012, 09:40 AM
    In matters such as these, we should have opinions from racists on both sides. Fuhrman and Sharpton. That's fair and balanced.
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    May 29, 2012, 06:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by magprob View Post
    In matters such as these, we should have opinions from racists on both sides. Fuhrman and Sharpton. That's fair and balanced.
    I like it.
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    May 29, 2012, 06:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by magprob View Post
    In matters such as these, we should have opinions from racists on both sides. Fuhrman and Sharpton. That's fair and balanced.
    Hello mag:

    It may be that Sharpton is a racist. But Fuhrman is a racist AND a proven liar..

    Two to one is only fair and balanced at FOX News. Bwa, ha ha ha.

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    May 29, 2012, 08:15 AM
    Sharpton is a liar, too.



    In fact, I believe his rise to prominence was based on lies.
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    May 29, 2012, 08:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Sharpton is a liar, too.
    Hello again, Steve:

    Let me see. You think Sharpton being cross examined by a right wing loon on HIS TV show, equates to Furhman being cross examined on the WITNESS STAND by real LAWYERS, after having SWORN an oath to God that he's going to tell the truth, and then lies and lies, and lies, and then lies again.

    You guys are bonkers.

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    May 29, 2012, 08:44 AM
    Oh, so if they aren't officially found to be lies in a court of law they aren't really lies. Gotcha.
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    May 29, 2012, 08:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Oh, so if they aren't officially found to be lies in a court of law they aren't really lies. Gotcha.
    Hello again, steve:

    Let me see... O'Reilly SAYS there's no tape. YOU believe him. That's your case. That doesn't mean Sharpton lied. It means you BELIEVE he lied... That ain't a lie. It's a right wing fantasy.

    Fuhrman, on the other hand was PROVEN, over and over and over AGAIN to be a liar.. That AIN'T a fantasy. It's REAL life. You oughta join it sometime.

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    May 30, 2012, 06:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, steve:

    Lemme see... O'Reilly SAYS there's no tape. YOU believe him. That's your case. That doesn't mean Sharpton lied. It means you BELIEVE he lied... That ain't a lie. It's a right wing fantasy.

    Fuhrman, on the other hand was PROVEN, over and over and over AGAIN to be a liar.. That AIN'T a fantasy. It's REAL life. You oughta join it sometime.

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    Where's the tape?
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    May 30, 2012, 06:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Where's the tape?
    Hello again, Steve:

    You PROVE my point.. You BELIEVE there's no tape. I'm not going to TRY to convince you that there IS a tape. You'll BELIEVE what you want to believe anyway, and I ain't going to change it...

    But, NOBODY believes that Fuhrman ISN'T a LIAR and a RACIST scumbag. I don't have to convince you. Even you, a FOX News viewer, knows that to be a FACT.

    You do know what a FACT is, as opposed to rank SPECULATION?? One is hysteria. One is REAL.. They're NOT fair and balanced, no matter HOW many times you hear it...

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    May 31, 2012, 07:01 AM
    Hello again:

    Here's the new thing from FOX. A news organization producing an attack ad. I wonder, do you think it's fair and balanced??

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

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    May 31, 2012, 07:06 AM
    I wonder if that rises to the level of Dan Rather faking news with forgeries to influence the election.

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