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    Apr 25, 2009, 07:29 PM
    The first 100 days
    Well, now that the first 100 days of You Know Who's Administration is just about upon us I would like to pose a question to everyone here.

    I can think of at least several dozen things this person has done WRONG since January 21, 2009 but can anyone here name

    Anything he's done right so far?

    A minimum of 10 things that he's done right and I'll shut up and got sit down. I'm personally having a hard time coming up with even one thing.
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    Apr 25, 2009, 08:01 PM

    Ooh Twinks you must really not like this person if you know it's been 100 days.

    EDIT:: Momentary moment of stupidity.

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    Apr 25, 2009, 08:49 PM

    Well, Muddy, it's hard to miss this "milestone" date when the news keeps reminding us of this.
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    Apr 25, 2009, 09:28 PM

    How about kissing the hand of the leader of the "land of oil"... no wait... wasn't Bush accused of doing the same thing, but a different part of the anatomy? Confused again... (sigh).
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    Apr 25, 2009, 09:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Stringer View Post
    a different part of the anatomy? Confused again...(sigh).
    Nah, that was Clinton! :eek:
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    Apr 26, 2009, 02:34 AM

    Don''t fret . I'm sure sometime during the love fest Wednesday ,the Press (especially CNN which plans a "campaign night like" special )will be sure to point out all his missteps as well as his great achievements .

    Here is the 100 day retrospective worthy of reading :
    100 DAYS, 100 MISTAKES FOR BARACK OBAMA - New York Post
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    Apr 26, 2009, 03:11 PM

    Tom - Thanks for the heads up on the CNN Special. It should be a 30 minute special with about 29 1/2 minutes of commercials.
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    Apr 27, 2009, 05:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    I can think of at least several dozen things this person has done WRONG since January 21, 2009 but can anyone here name Anything he's done right so far?
    Hello twink,

    10 things, huh? Ok..

    1) He ended torture

    2) The prosecution of the torturers is going to happen.

    3) He is restoring our good name in the world.

    4) He's fixing the economy.

    5) He's cutting taxes for the middle class.

    6) He's ending the war in Iraq.

    7) He's stepping up the "good war" in Afganistan.

    8) He's restoring "diplomacy" as a tool.

    9) He's UN-politisizing the Justice Department.

    10) He extended un-employment benefits.

    11) He's going to approve legislation that will help the American worker organize.

    12) He's fixing the health care system.

    13) He's fixing the education system.

    14) He's restoring the American Dream.

    I got more if you need 'em.

    excon
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    Apr 27, 2009, 04:22 PM

    Excon, I think you've just listed 10 things that he didn't do. Especially #8 and #3. He's happily trashed the US to the entire world making us the laughingstock.

    And to #7, he wants to go into Afganistan due to the bumper crop of opium.

    And best of all #14. So far I can't really see any restoring The American Dream. Want to help me see this a bit clearer as all I can see is more folks on unemployment, homeless, on food stamps, losing their jobs, losing their homes, losing their cars. Or are you reading the funny papers? What new jobs has he "created"?? In Ohio there are more and more people in need of jobs and fewer and fewer jobs advertised.

    And the part about having the workers organized... Some Unions want a fee up front for a job and you can wait literally months to get that job or you have to pay the Union the fee the moment you're hired. How are you supposed to live in the meantime? On "dirt sandwiches"?
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    Apr 27, 2009, 04:24 PM
    I think the only thing he actually did that was right was to extend the unemployment benefits for more weeks.
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    Apr 27, 2009, 04:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    excon, I think you've just listed 10 things that he didn't do. Especially #8 and #3. He's happily trashed the US to the entire world making us the laughingstock.
    No. Under Bush you were a laughing stock. Obama is widely popular throughout the world and a lot of respect lost under Bush is being restored.
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    Apr 28, 2009, 09:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello twink,

    10 things, huh? Ok..

    1) He ended torture
    No he didn't because it wasn't torture. What he did was put an end to valuable techniques for obtaining information from our enemies.

    2) The prosecution of the torturers is going to happen.
    Prosecutions for something that never happened is a good thing? For who?

    3) He is restoring our good name in the world.
    Sure, if you call laughing at us "restoring our good name". So far he's managed to insult the UK PM (twice), the UK Queen, and the Russian government, while at the same time kissing up to dictators like Chavez and the Castro boys.

    4) He's fixing the economy.
    How? I'm curious how you think that increasing the national debt is going to solve a national debt crisis, and how increasing spending is going to close a budget deficit.

    5) He's cutting taxes for the middle class.
    Really? When did that happen?

    6) He's ending the war in Iraq.
    No he isn't. The war is still going on. The only thing that he MIGHT be doing is to pull out our troops. The war will go on. And in fact, he isn't even going to do that much. He's leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq.

    7) He's stepping up the "good war" in Afganistan.
    I've seen that he PLANS on sending some more troops to Afghanistan. I haven't seen it happen yet. Nor have I seen anything that resembles a change in the ROE in Afghanistan necessary to "step up" prosecution of tha war. All he's doing is shifting soldiers from one place to another... and he hasn't even done that yet.

    8) He's restoring "diplomacy" as a tool.
    Yeah... he's talking to Cuba, Iran, North Korea and China. Because diplomacy has worked so well with these countries in the past.

    I thought we were talking about doing GOOD things.

    9) He's UN-politisizing the Justice Department.
    You mean the same Justice Department that just released a bunch of memos about CIA interrogation techniques for purely partisan reasons?

    10) He extended un-employment benefits.
    Well, you found ONE good thing.

    11) He's going to approve legislation that will help the American worker organize.
    No, he's going to approve legislation that is going to force the American workers and the businesses they work for to be unionized whether the worker or the employer wants it or not. And he's doing it to support the labor unions that can't get membership unless they can force people to unionize. Unions are some of the biggest donors to Obama's campaign coffers, so he's returning the favor... regardless of what the effect on workers, businesses or the economy as a whole ends up being.

    12) He's fixing the health care system.
    You mean the same healthcare system that Church Schumer just yesterday called the best in the world (regarding travel to the USA in the wake of the swine flu outbreak)?

    13) He's fixing the education system.
    How? By throwing more money into a broken system? He isn't fixing anything. He's just spending more on the same broken system.

    14) He's restoring the American Dream.
    More like the American nightmare. A nation so deep in debt that our grandchildren are going to be paying for it, so lacking in respect that the Third World $h!tballs of countries are laughing at our "naivete", so unprepared for a military emergency that the terrorist are licking their chops at the chance to get us again.

    I hope YOU can sleep well.

    I got more if you need 'em.

    Excon
    Yep. You have a knack for being wrong more often than almost anyone I know. I'm sure you can do it over and over again. You've certainly proven that.

    Elliot
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    Apr 28, 2009, 09:43 AM

    I'm just going to add to EX's list .

    The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay act of 2009

    As I said before your only defense for Bush was we haven't been attacked so by your own parties account Obama is doing a perfect job.
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    Apr 28, 2009, 09:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Skell View Post
    No. Under Bush you were a laughing stock. Obama is widely popular throughout the world and a lot of respect lost under Bush is being restored.
    Yes, I'm sure that the Austrians respect his ability to speak Austrian.

    I'm sure that PM Gordon Brown is enjoying those DVDs he can't play on his DVD player.

    I'm sure 83-year-old Queen Elizabeth is enjoying her iPod.

    I'm quite sure that Russian Foreign Minister Lavarov is enjoying his "overcharge" button.

    Yes, we're getting that respect back real fast...

    Elliot
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    Apr 28, 2009, 09:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I'm just going to add to EX's list .

    The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay act of 2009

    As i said before your only defense for Bush was we haven't been attacked so by your own parties account Obama is doing a perfect job.
    Yes... a brilliant move. Let's make companies open to even more frivolous lawsuits, increase the costs of diong business and lower profitability... right in the middle of a recession.

    I thought we were talking about things he has done right so far.
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    Apr 28, 2009, 09:57 AM

    Pay the person fairly no law suit. Simple how that works.
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    Apr 28, 2009, 10:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Pay the person fairly no law suit. Simple how that works.
    Negotiate the salary BEFORE you take the job. If it isn't fair, don't take the job. See how simple that works?
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    Apr 28, 2009, 11:03 AM

    ET while that may work for some jobs we both know that is not the case at all companies.
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    Apr 28, 2009, 11:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    ET while that may work for some jobs we both know that is not the case at all companies.
    Say what?!

    If you don't like the pay, don't take the job. If you take the job but don't like the pay, find another job. But if you take a job and don't like the pay, don't complain that someone else made you do it. You shouldn't blame the employer for getting the best deal he could find. He's in the business of making money, not paying salaries that are higher than he is able to negotiate.

    It works that way in every capitalist society in the entire world at every company. Heck, it works that way in many non-capitalist societies around the world.

    At what company does it NOT work that way?

    Elliot
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    Apr 28, 2009, 11:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ETWolverine View Post
    Say what?!?!?

    If you don't like the pay, don't take the job. If you take the job but don't like the pay, find another job. But if you take a job and don't like the pay, don't complain that someone else made you do it. You shouldn't blame the employer for getting the best deal he could find. He's in the business of making money, not paying salaries that are higher than he is able to negotiate.

    It works that way in every capitalist society in the entire world at every company. Heck, it works that way in many non-capitalist societies around the world.

    At what company does it NOT work that way?

    Elliot
    The act is so people don't get taken advantage of. You can't sit there and say to a woman everyone starts $10.00 per hour there is no negotiation. Then a man walks in for the same job same qualification but he starts at $12.00 simply because he has a pair. It is not about liking the salary it is about treating everyone as an equal but I wouldn't expect the right to understand that concept.

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