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Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 05:57 AM

Trump is a white supremacist. He is the chief enabler and encourager of the Nazis and KKK in their racist ideology. He made that absolutely certain in his out-of-control press conference at Trump Tower yesterday.

Trump has appointed about 20-30 people to various political positions (cabinet heads, etc.). EVERY ONE OF THEM SHOULD RESIGN TODAY UNLESS THEY WANT TO BE FOREVER TARNISHED WITH THE REPUTATION OF BEING A NAZI SUPPORTER.

There are hundreds of Republican Congressmen who have been silent in condemning Trump for his outspoken encouragement of the Klan and the Nazis. EVERY ONE OF THEM SHOULD DENOUNCE TRUMP BY NAME TODAY UNLESS THEY WANT TO BE FOREVER TARNISHED WITH THE REPUTATION OF BEING A NAZI SUPPORTER.

paraclete · Aug 16, 2017, 06:00 AM

Some people just get their knickers in a knot. Trump was right there was wrong on both sides, when you go spoiling for a fight you just might get one

talaniman · Aug 16, 2017, 06:15 AM

It's wrong to stand up to racists? Back away from the Trump-Ade!

paraclete · Aug 16, 2017, 06:23 AM

No, but why give them what they are looking for?

Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Trump was right there was wrong on both sides,

Good Lord!! What planet are you from? One side spouts evil racist ideology from the KKK and the Nazis - and the other side fights against that evil. And you call this WRONG ON BOTH SIDES!!!

Your swastika is showing.

talaniman · Aug 16, 2017, 06:30 AM

What do you expect when Nazis raise their heads in public. A big war was fought against them, were those that opposed them then wrong? Law enforcement dropped the ball because they should have seen this fight coming.

tomder55 · Aug 16, 2017, 06:44 AM

Clete ;What you are witnessing here is the intolerance of the left . I condemn to Nazis ;KKK and other goonish untra-nationalists .I also condemn the Antifa types who's actions are reminiscent of the Taliban in their efforts to purge any cultural difference they don't agree with .

Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Clete ;What you are witnessing here is the intolerance of the left . I condemn to Nazis ;KKK and other goonish untra-nationalists .I also condemn the Antifa types who's actions are reminiscent of the Taliban in their efforts to purge any cultural difference they don't agree with .

tomder - get a grip. The Antifa are anti-fascists who are giving the Nazi crowd a taste of their own medicine. Would you prefer appeasement to fighting back?

talaniman · Aug 16, 2017, 08:07 AM

What do you expect Tom when the duly elected president has spent two years spewing hate, and division, AND violence feeding his minions red meat? For every action there is an equal reaction, so enabling right wing loonies is what gives birth to the rise of left wing loonies whose mission statement is to forcefully confront "Nazis or fascists of any stripe".

Law enforcement is challenged to control both loony factions, but it would help if Trump would lead and not capitulate to his own loonies wouldn't it? Repubs quacked a bit but went along with it too. So here we are but let me be very clear that violence isn't the answer. This disaster should be laid at the feet of law enforcement who is charged with serve and protect. They did neither.

Only an idiot didn't see this coming and I hope the locals who give those permits learn from this and do better in the future.

tomder55 · Aug 16, 2017, 09:38 AM

The Antifa are left wing anarchists who use violence to achieve their goals . When they bullied in Berkeley were they 'giving the Nazi crowd a taste of their own medicine' ? No they were preventing the free and open exchange of ideas on a college campus. Their tactics are just as nazi-like thuggish as the Nazi's who were protesting the removal of the statue of Robert E Lee. No one has convinced me yet that it wasn't in fact Antifa that instigated the violence .You can cheer-lead their thuggery all you want to. I condemn both sides .

talaniman · Aug 16, 2017, 11:38 AM

Factually they were protesting the free speech of a ultra conservative right wing Trump supporting talking head at Berkley. I get your point, violence and destruction of property is against the law, just as murder and mayhem, and terrorism by the alt right. That's why you cannot equate the two. I've seen wilder bar fights than the one in Charlottesville, and elevating the two groups to equal status is to minimize the role that Dufus plays in this mess, and plays right into the hands of White Nationalists.

It's right out of the ISIS playbook.

Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

No one has convinced me yet that it wasn't in fact Antifa that instigated the violence .You can cheer-lead their thuggery all you want to. I condemn both sides .

And no one ever will convince you, since by your own words, you are clearly on the Nazi team. You condemn both sides, you say. What a crock! You are doing exactly what that idiot in the WH is doing - treating each faction as if they were two sides of the same coin. BULL****!

One side spews anti-semitic hatred, marches with KKK banners, chants Nazi slogans direct from Hitler, and MURDERS a woman. The other side reacts violently to this evil behavior, not seen since 1930s Germany, and you condemn "BOTH SIDES"?????

Do you not see the very OBVIOUS difference between the two sides? I think you do. I think you are hiding your true sympathies that favor the Nazis. Stop being such a coward and come right out and admit it.

tomder55 · Aug 16, 2017, 01:15 PM

again ;a conversation ender . Civilty recommended .But you do prove my point about the intolerant left .

Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

again ;a conversation ender . Civilty recommended .But you do prove my point about the intolerant left .

Intolerance in the face of anti-semitism, the Klan, and the Nazis is a virtue.

talaniman · Aug 16, 2017, 02:19 PM

I find it interesting that one side gets the death and injuries and the other doesn't. What should we glean from that?

tomder55 · Aug 16, 2017, 02:49 PM

This is how the left hands victory to the alt-right: by labeling everyone a Nazi, then cheering violent leftists.

Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

This is how the left hands victory to the alt-right: by labeling everyone a Nazi, then cheering violent leftists.

Not everyone is labeled a Nazi, just those who by word or deed reveal themselves to be supportive or to be the actual thing. I make no distinction between the two.

tomder55 · Aug 16, 2017, 03:25 PM

and I don't like the Taliban lefties . Tell you what ;the US Capitol was built with slave labor . Let's knock that down too. Let's knock down Mount Vernon and erase George Washington from the history books . Let's go to Gettysburg and smash all the Confederate monuments there also .

Tal you don't like the violence ? Where was your voice when Antifa was busting heads and vandalizing Berkley ?

The real story at Charlottesville was the cops and National Guard standing down when the violence erupted . But the reason for that is one of those inconvenient truths .(btw the ACLU Va confirmed that as fact )

Athos · Aug 16, 2017, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The real story at Charlottesville was the cops and National Guard standing down when the violence erupted . But the reason for that is one of those inconvenient truths .(btw the ACLU Va confirmed that as fact )

NO. The real story at Charlottesville is the President of the United States NOT FORCEFULLY SPEAKING OUT against the anti-Semites, the Klan and the Nazis, and adding insult to injury he INCREDIBLY equates those evil derelicts with the people that fought them.

Besides the evil actions, all else PALES in comparison.

If anyone had any doubt, tomder, where your sympathies lie, your continued posts here make it more and more clear. The ACLU comment shows how truly desperate you are to distract the conversation away from Trump and his Nazis.

tomder55 · Aug 16, 2017, 05:57 PM

just the facts .... It was the Democrat mayor of Charlottesville ,and the Democrat Governor of the state who prevented the police force from providing adequate security for the protesters and the counter-protesters .ACLU fires back at Gov. McAuliffe after comments on violence at Charlottesville rally | WTVR.com

Why they didn't one can only speculate . If they were serious about providing security there would've been multiple layers of barriers between the groups .