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    #41

    Jun 28, 2012, 06:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yup, the media FINALLY noticed. A Fortune Magazine investigation reveals that the ATF never intentionally allowed guns to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. How the world came to believe just the opposite is a tale of rivalry, murder, and political bloodlust.

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

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    Then Holder has nothing to hide, right?
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    Jun 28, 2012, 06:58 AM
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    Then Holder has nothing to hide, right?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Doesn't the subpoena call for Holder to release some information that he's legally PREVENTED from releasing?? I think it does. Should ALL the conversations between the president and the attorney general be exposed? Nahhh.

    So, even though he nothing to "hide", he has plenty that isn't anybody's business. Besides, you ask the wrong question. The one I'd ask is how badly is Romney AND the Republican brand going to be HURT by this witch hunt.

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    Jun 28, 2012, 07:30 AM
    Good thing nobody got killed or anything, right?
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    #44

    Jun 28, 2012, 07:41 AM
    Repeating ad nauseum a talking point - that is the far right's modis operandi.
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    Jun 28, 2012, 08:16 AM
    Excuse me, but those are my words and mine alone and I'll keep repeating them ad nauseum until you guys take the death of Brian Terry seriously. Apparently people getting killed is no big deal to you.

    Good thing nobody got killed or anything, right?
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    Jun 28, 2012, 08:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Excuse me, but those are my words and mine alone and I'll keep repeating them ad nauseum until you guys take the death of Brian Terry seriously. Apparently people getting killed is no big deal to you.
    Hello again, Steve:

    If it's SUCH a big deal, why don't you hold the guy who actually DID Fast and Furious, accountable? THOSE dots can be connected. I don't know WHY Issa doesn't do that - unless his intention is NOT to hold people to account, but to make POLITICAL waves.

    Surely, there's NO evidence that Holder OR Obama had ANYTHING to DO with what actually KILLED the guy you seem so worried about.

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    Jun 28, 2012, 09:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    If it's SUCH a big deal, why don't you hold the guy who actually DID Fast and Furious, accountable? THOSE dots can be connected. I dunno WHY Issa doesn't do that - unless his intention is NOT to hold people to account, but to make POLITICAL waves.

    Surely, there's NO evidence that Holder OR Obama had ANYTHING to DO with what actually KILLED the guy you seem so worried about.

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    ^

    He said it better.
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    Jun 28, 2012, 09:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    If it's SUCH a big deal, why don't you hold the guy who actually DID Fast and Furious, accountable? THOSE dots can be connected. I dunno WHY Issa doesn't do that - unless his intention is NOT to hold people to account, but to make POLITICAL waves.

    Surely, there's NO evidence that Holder OR Obama had ANYTHING to DO with what actually KILLED the guy you seem so worried about.

    excon
    Again I ask, where does the buck stop? Who is responsible for F&F?? Why did Holder lie? Why has he stonewalled for over a year? Why did Obama cover for him? None of these questions honestly trouble you?

    Darn it, good thing nobody got killed or anything.
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    Jun 28, 2012, 09:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    good thing nobody got killed or anything.
    Spam and trolling.
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    #50

    Jun 29, 2012, 04:57 AM
    The buck STARTS at the NRA.

    Dems urge NRA to stay out of contempt fight - TheHill.com
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    #51

    Jun 29, 2012, 06:59 AM
    But it's OK for Dems to send thousands of weapons to Mexico to influence American politics about gun control ?
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    #52

    Jun 29, 2012, 07:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Spam and trolling.
    Lame and pathetic and totally inaccurate. An "Ultra Member" is not a troll by definition, but if I'm a troll then so are you. Actually, you're more of a creeper.
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    #53

    Jun 29, 2012, 07:07 AM
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    But it's ok for Dems to send thousands of weapons to Mexico to influence American politics about gun control ?
    Hello tom:

    You COULD say that if you're a believer in THAT particular conspiracy theory. The good news is, if you take your tin foil hat off, the conspiracy will disappear.

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    Jun 29, 2012, 07:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The buck STARTS at the NRA.

    Dems urge NRA to stay out of contempt fight - TheHill.com
    That wasn't the question and the NRA has as much right to petition congress as the SEIU. The question was where does the buck STOP?
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    Jun 29, 2012, 07:22 AM
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    The question was where does the buck STOP?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Hold on, podner... You're all wrapped up in right wing world... We KNOW who authorized F&F. Now, it's true, the president is responsible for EVERYTHING the federal government does... The buck stops with him. You don't really need him to tell you that.

    Now, I understand the right wing, in the absence of ANY evidence whatsoever, THINKS that Holder or Obama did something wrong... It's that, or the Republicans want to CREATE a scandal out of whole cloth, during election season...

    I suspect, it's the latter.

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    #56

    Jun 29, 2012, 07:55 AM
    It has been in investigation for over a year. Seems to me it was the stonewalling Adm that created the scandal.
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    #57

    Jun 29, 2012, 08:05 AM
    So those 17 Democrats who voted with the Reps "want to CREATE a scandal out of whole cloth, during election season"??
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    Jun 29, 2012, 08:50 AM
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    So those 17 Democrats who voted with the Reps "want to CREATE a scandal out of whole cloth, during election season"???
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know.. When you were younger, you were at least CLOSER to the truth than you are these days. Now, you're out there somewhere... Come back... Come back...

    Truly, we both know that the Democrats who voted with the Republicans are afraid of losing their seats, because they're intimidated by the NRA. It's true. You guys move in lockstep much better than the Democrats do. Plus, your guys don't seem so chicken..

    Like you said, it IS election season.

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    #59

    Jun 29, 2012, 09:06 AM
    The truth? Are you really interested in the truth? If you were you'd want to know what they're hiding. This isn't Roger Clemens, this is a pattern of stonewalling, lying, retracting. Refusing to comply with subpoenas and refusing to make key witnesses available for interviewing before the Committee.

    You guys keep whining about never having so and so testify, well the DoJ won't make them available and the FBI and the DEA never submitted anything the Committee requested. You want blood out of a turnip?
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    Jun 29, 2012, 09:14 AM
    My mom sure likes not falling through that donut hole, bet yours does too. OOPS! Wrong thread!!
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