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    Aug 22, 2021, 03:56 AM
    The deep state wanted a brain dead sock puppet ......
    and that is what they got .He signs what they tell him to sign and smiles at the camera and growls when challenged .

    Then they put the worse possible group in the line of succession to guarantee that the 25th amendment would not be invoked ... After Quid you have:
    VP Kam the Sham
    Speaker Madam Mim
    Dare I go on ?

    Patrick Leahy
    Blinken
    Yellen
    Sec Def Loyd Austin
    AG Garland

    and so on
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    Aug 22, 2021, 04:17 AM
    You really should start your posts, Once Upon a Time.....

    We get your are staunchly partisan, but this doesn't have a shred of plausibility, or even grounding in reality..
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    Aug 22, 2021, 05:28 AM
    what part ? About the 25th amendment ? About Quid smiling at the camera when making prepared speeches and growling when challenged ? Did you see the heavily edited interview with George Stephanoulos (ABC is afraid to release the full unedited video) ? Dramatic video of bodies falling out of the wheel wells of evacuation US planes ? "That's old news "

    Both sides of the aisle in Congress has members that think it's time for him to go .... and our ally the Brits have held Quid in contempt .

    I can guarantee that Kam the Sham is quietly polling the cabinet members to get a sense to determine if the 25th amendment is doable .

    (Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.)

    The line of succession is a fact .
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    Aug 22, 2021, 05:51 AM
    I add that Quid is attempting to throw deep state under the bus . He defends himself by saying they were the incompetents that came up with the plan themselves . Quid absolves himself of responsibility even as he drools out the pabulum ..."the buck stops here" .

    The problem is that Schmucky Shumer correctly pointed out to Trump what happens when someone goes after the deep state " (they have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you . . .) They executed their show trial on Trump for daring to take on their Ukraine policy. They spread lies about Russia paying the Taliban bounties so they could prevent Trump from executing an orderly end to the war. Quid did not follow the deep state formula(keeping the endless wars going ) and that is why we have this debacle .

    The problem is that everyone knows Quid is too feeble of mind to have come up with any plan...even a bad one .

    Members of Congress know that Schmucky's admonition applies to them as well. So when they decide to pull the plug on Quid ;It will be done.


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    Aug 22, 2021, 08:53 AM
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    Aug 22, 2021, 02:01 PM
    Seems hard to imagine how anyone could contend that Biden is not mentally impaired.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 02:18 PM
    Who's the Dumkirk? *cough* Trump thinks Dunkirk was a loss.

    Trump said, "This could be—Afghanistan—another Dunkirk.”
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    Aug 22, 2021, 02:47 PM
    Trump thinks Dunkirk was a loss.
    Uhm...Dunkirk was a loss. The Brits heroically managed to evac a large number of troops, but it was part of the general military disaster of the Nazi invasion of France. It was a loss made more tolerable by the evacuation of part of the BEF, but it was very much a loss.

    What do you think it was?

    Why is it that libs have no other answer than to take an undeserved swipe at Trump? At any rate, Gen. Petraeus agreed with Trump. "IT’S AMERICA’S “DUNKIRK MOMENT.”AT LEAST THAT’S HOW FORMER TOP US GENERAL DAVID PETRAEUS DESCRIBED THE US OPERATION TO AIRLIFT ITS CITIZENS AND DESPERATE AFGHAN COMRADES FROM TALIBAN-CONTROLLED AFGHANISTAN, COMPARING IT TO THE BRITISH RETREAT FROM NAZI-OCCUPIED EUROPE IN 1940. PETRAEUS, WHO ONCE COMMANDED US FORCES IN AFGHANISTAN, ALSO BRANDED PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN’S CHAOTIC WITHDRAWAL A DISASTER."
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    Aug 22, 2021, 03:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Why is it that libs have no other answer than to take an undeserved swipe at Trump?
    Not you too!!!

    It's dubbed the "Miracle of Dunkirk." 198,000 British troops and 140,000 French troops were saved at Dunkirk - 380,000 soldiers altogether.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 03:20 PM
    When you have to evacuate your troops because the enemy force has driven them to the coast, and you only are able to evac part of the troops and very little of the equipment, then that qualifies as a military defeat just about everywhere. We are going to be able to evac most of our people, but no one other than a genuinely committed lib is going to characterize it as anything other than a military and diplomatic defeat, JUST LIKE DUNKIRK.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 03:34 PM
    “Wars are not won by evacuations” (Churchill)


    for the record ;the Brits were able to evacuate only because Hitler refused to commit his tanks to the attack because he believed they needed infantry support .So he delayed the attack on the beach .

    The British army was poorly led by a generation of old menwhose experience was imperial rule, unaware of how much military tactics and technology had advanced since World War I.

    “I still cannot understand how it is that the Bosches [Germans] have allowed us to get the BEF off in this way. It is almost fantastic that we have been able to do it in the face of all the bombing and gunning.”

    Churchill knew his army was shattered. Its ranks were seriously depleted and its leadership required a generational shake-up. A large number of older officers were found unfit to lead their troops in battle and were summarily sent home. This, at least, had the effect of bringing sudden promotion to younger men, some of whom would bring fresh thinking to future battles.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 04:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    When you have to evacuate your troops because the enemy force has driven them to the coast, and you only are able to evac part of the troops and very little of the equipment, then that qualifies as a military defeat
    Then it was a MIRACLE that so many were evacuated and their lives saved. Nothing has been said that Dunkirk was a victory.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 04:48 PM
    No miracle needed . We have the superior force All it would take was the will to evacuate every American who wanted to leave . The Brits are sending troops outside the perimeter to evacuate . The Americans are watching Americans denied at Taliban check points .
    Austin contradicts Biden, says Americans have been ‘beaten’ by the Taliban - POLITICO
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    Aug 22, 2021, 05:14 PM
    Nothing has been said that Dunkirk was a victory.
    So Trump was right. Good.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 05:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So Trump was right. Good.
    Nope yet again! He was referring to the EVACUATION going on right now and comparing this evacuation to the one at Dunkirk.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 05:21 PM
    So the evacuation is a victory? Well, OK then.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 05:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So the evacuation is a victory? Well, OK then.
    We. Aren't. Taking. About. Victory. Or. Defeat. We. Are. Talking. About. EVACUATION.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 06:14 PM
    You said Trump was wrong in referencing Dunkirk as a "loss" (Trump thinks Dunkirk was a loss). Now you say you aren't talking about victory or defeat. Are you always this confused?
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    Aug 22, 2021, 06:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You said Trump was wrong in referencing Dunkirk as a "loss" (Trump thinks Dunkirk was a loss). Now you say you aren't talking about victory or defeat. Are you always this confused?
    No, you are. I'll pray for you.

    Trump (and apparently you) doesn't understand the difference between the words loss and evacuation.
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    Aug 22, 2021, 06:31 PM
    Well, Afghanistan is a disaster and Trump accurately described it. Your TDS is just kicking up again. It’ll pass.

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