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    Nov 9, 2021, 05:06 AM
    The Compost dips it's toes into the possibility that MAYBE they got it wrong
    I can't officially link to the story without a subscription . Erik Wemple is the Compost media critic . He took to task media outlets that ran with the Steele dossier story all these years.

    The Danchenko indictment doubles as a critique of several media outlets that covered Steele’s reports in 2016 and after its publication by BuzzFeed in January 2017 "......"CNN, MSNBC, Mother Jones, the McClatchy newspaper chain and various pundits showered credibility upon the dossier without corroboration — and found other topics to cover when a forceful debunking arrived in December 2019 via a report from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz."....

    "News organizations may face a mismatch as they place their reporting alongside the indictment. Where the indictment relies on emails, interviews and other powerful investigative tools, the Journal’s initial scoop cited a single anonymous source. The sourcing for The Post’s reporting about Millian’s alleged conversation is unclear, while ABC News attributes its primary assertion to ‘a person familiar with the raw intelligence provided to the FBI,'" ... "These news outlets now face a steep journalistic challenge — that of returning to their source(s) in an effort to back up the original claims that Millian was an unwitting source for the dossier. If that effort doesn’t produce enough evidence to surmount the allegations in the indictment, there’s only one option: Retract the stories. Allowing one version of events to sit awkwardly alongside another — and leaving it to the reader to decide — won’t cut it."


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    Nov 9, 2021, 04:45 PM
    USA has published their own mea culpa about being deceived about the Russian hoax .

    No collusion: How Americans were fed a false tale about Donald Trump's 2016 campaign (msn.com)
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    Nov 10, 2021, 05:54 AM
    They were willing and even eager participants. It was never about news. It was always about the thrilling possibility of making Trump eat dirt. Such is modern journalism.

    I was with the pro-lifers at the abortion clinic last week. There were two journalists there for Swiss television. They spent practically the entire time all chummed up with the pro-aborts. Of the two pro-lifers there, she only spoke with me for ten minutes or so, but when the pro-aborts started to leave, she and her colleague gathered up their gear and went hopping obediently along with them. It was a sickening display that objective journalism is largely dead.
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    Nov 10, 2021, 06:00 AM
    yes you know where USA Today stands when you read tripe like this .

    Jobs, jabs, infrastructure, prosperity and peace: Thank President Biden for his service (msn.com)

    Quid's polls are low because Quid doesn't promote himself enough
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    Nov 10, 2021, 06:45 AM
    A $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill has been approved by Congress. Money, gobs of it, will soon start flowing to all 50 states for badly needed road and bridge repairs. Rural communities with poor internet service will soon have high-speed broadband. Lead pipes, which deliver tainted water to countless communities, will be replaced. The nation’s rickety power grid will get an upgrade. And more.
    And then there is that tricky issue of how to pay for this. Better yet, there is the question of why we would increase spending in a time when we are already engaged in ENORMOUS amounts of deficit spending.
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    Nov 11, 2021, 05:04 AM
    Almost nobody in the swamp does more than pay lip service to the issue of uncontrolled spending. That $1,2 trillion in reality is more like $4 trillion. They used sleight of hand gimmicks to cook the books that resemble the fast hands of a 3-card monte dealer.
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    Nov 17, 2021, 05:10 AM
    In any other honorable profession, one that still takes itself seriously and is capable of self-policing to preserve the tattered shreds of integrity and accountability that remain, mass firings, not faux “reckonings,” would empty newsrooms. Reporters, columnists, cable news hosts, and paid contributors would be shown walking papers. Editors would step down in humiliation. Public apologies, not mealymouthed caveats and explainers buried in the entertainment guide, would be plastered on the front page of every newspaper and website; talking heads would make amends to the victims—including Donald Trump—for this reckless, destructive hoax and also to their audience for intentionally misleading them for years and then announce their early retirement.
    Collusion between Donald Trump and the Kremlin to influence the outcome of the 2016 election never happened—but every news organization, big and small, contributed to spreading this lie. It’s breathtaking malfeasance on a scale unrivaled in American history. The media should not be permitted to proceed with business as usual.
    Fire them all.
    Retract Every Russian Collusion Story and Fire Everyone Who Wrote Them › American Greatness (amgreatness.com)
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    Nov 18, 2021, 03:57 AM
    The mea culpas continue . Now NY Slimes correspondent Bret Stephens says he was wrong to defend Comey when Trump canned him.
    Opinion | What the Steele Dossier Reveals About the FBI - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    The Compost continues to "correct" it's reporting about the Steele Dossier .
    The Washington Post corrects, removes parts of two stories regarding the Steele dossier - The Washington Post

    Stephens notes that the media's handling of the Steele Dossier is itself a scandal, but he's more focused on how FBI agents misled the FISA Court when they filed warrant applications .Stephens says it was right for the FBI to investigate the allegations against Trump's campaign and to look for the possibility of Russian meddling in the election. But the credibility of the investigation changed when the FBI concealed that it was all bogus . As Stephens correctly points out the FBI has a sordid history of such untrustworthiness .Comey like other directors and key officers before him have been political creatures of the swamp.

    The charges against Danchenko (lying to the FBI) will only be of true value if they lead to charges against the people in the agency that took the dossier and ran with it in a coup attempt against the President .
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    Nov 18, 2021, 06:46 AM
    Isn't all of this pretty much what Mueller reported to Congress, that there was no evidence linking the Trump campaign to the Russkies? The Trump haters did not want to accept it at the time, but maybe they are grudgingly beginning to do so now.
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    Nov 18, 2021, 09:44 AM
    Comey and Mueller were cut from the same cloth . Mueller left some hope by couching his words with language like he could not exonerate . (and of course prosecutors have no power to exonerate .They decide if there is enough evidence to charge someone.) Comey pulled the same nonsense when he listed all the things Evita did illegally and then said no reasonable prosecutor would charge her .

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