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Jun 28, 2011, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
No he didn't. He's just trying to prove to you that two wrongs make a right - which is not the case. Can we not glorify the wrongdoings and instead praise the good deeds?
I'm breaking my new rule and responding to you. Funny you should say that after this comment:
Agreed, in the US it's hard to find a non-corrupt politician.
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Jun 28, 2011, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The Democrat culture of corruption continues...
Hello again, Steve:
Ok, let's TALK about corruption.. The Republicans are WILLING to put the country into DEFAULT because they THINK it will benefit them POLITICALLY... They don't care about the financial devastation that it will cause, and, if it does, they'll blame the Democrats... They ONLY care about POWER and they think that screwing the country will be GOOD for them...
They ARE playing Russian Roulette with YOUR future. Now, THAT'S corruption!!
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Jun 28, 2011, 06:55 AM
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Ex, that's politics. But if you want to go there, the left wants to spend us into oblivion, THAT"S corruption.
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Jun 28, 2011, 07:03 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
Didn't somebody say something about MEMORIES here in this thread?? I think they DID...
What you FAIL to remember, Steve, is that the LEFT gave your righty, George W. Bush a SURPLUS of money... That REALLY happened. I remember if you don't, and I'll REMIND you of it whenever necessary...
So, the current DEVASTATION the country is going through was created by the RIGHT WING GEORGE W. BUSH...
Now, you can chant the mantra of the right wing as long as you want, but I'm here to bring you back to reality.
Your turn.
excon
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Jun 28, 2011, 07:31 AM
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There are multiple ways that Blago can appeal . For one thing ,Jesse Jackson Jr's lawyers met with the judge before Jackson was questioned to go over with the judge the questions it was permissible to question Jackson about .
There was no evidence produced that proved Blago was doing this for his own gain. He believed ;and I tend to agree with him ,that this was the corrupt system he inherited . To him it was business as ususal in Illinois/Chitown.
The question I have is will this conviction loosen his tongue ? There is a cast of characters in this plot who have not gotten sufficient scrutiny...
Rezko and Stuart Levine
Rhambo
Jarrett
Jackson Jr.
Pat Quinn "the reform Governor " and his sidekick Jack Lavin(yeah they isn't immune from this )
President Obama .
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Jun 28, 2011, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
He believed ;and I tend to agree with him ,that this was the corrupt system he inherited .
Ignorance of the law is no defense. Neither is "he did it so I can too."
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Jun 28, 2011, 07:52 AM
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Hello again, tom, and you too, Steve:
I'm getting from you and Steve BOTH recently with his post about the "hands off" stance he believes the media has about Obama...
Do you really believe there's some deep dark secret about Obama that everybody is hiding?? You DO think he's a Muslin plant, don't you?
excon
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Jun 28, 2011, 08:06 AM
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Don't think I've ever accused him of being a secret Muslim, but I do think he's corrupt and useless.
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Jun 28, 2011, 08:30 AM
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I'm getting from you and Steve BOTH recently with his post about the "hands off" stance he believes the media has about Obama...
Tell me ;why the media silence over Gunwalker ? Why has the media not explored the details of the attempt to get Valerie Jarrett Obama's old Senate seat ?
Do you really believe there's some deep dark secret about Obama that everybody is hiding?? You DO think he's a Muslin plant, don't you?
Nope ,I think he can't stand religion. He went to a Christian church on his way up because it was expedient to go to that church in the town he chose to cut his political teeth in. Since he became President I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.
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Jun 28, 2011, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Tell me ;why the media silence over Gunwalker ? Why has the media not explored the details of the attempt to get Valerie Jarrett Obama's old Senate seat ?
Hello again, tom:
Gunwalker?? The story about how he sent guns to the narcos. I read about it. No silence there. Did thy go APE like both you and I think they should?? No, but I think they should gone APE when Obama DIDN'T prosecute Bush...
Valerie Jarrett's old seat? I don't know that it IS a story... But, my question for you, is, if it IS a story, WHY doesn't Brietbart investigate?? Are you saying that the lame stream media is the ONLY game in town? They are the ONLY ones who can uncover a story?? Hannity can't?? O'Reilly can't? The limpdude can't?? Rightwingers can't crack the Obama inner circle, but the lame stream media CAN?? There's not ONE rightwing investigative journalist out there?? Not ONE??
Dude?
excon
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Jun 28, 2011, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Nope ,I think he can't stand religion. He went to a Christian church on his way up because it was expedient to go to that church in the town he chose to cut his political teeth in. Since he became President I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.
And this is why atheism is the most maligned minority. It should not mater one iota what religion a civil servant is nor should he favour one over another.
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Jun 28, 2011, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.
Hello again, tom:
I don't know.. He LOVES them drones... Seems to me, you'd like him for his LOVE of drones, because that kind of LOVE is a very right wing kind of LOVE... He even LOVE those drones more than George W. Bush LOVED 'em. Doesn't that count?? Nahhh, it doesn't.
Could it be, that NO matter WHAT he does, you ain't going to like it?? I think so... Republicans started cap and trade - but when Obama liked it - you sh*tcanned it. Republicans started the Dream Act - but when Obama liked it - you sh*tcanned it. Republicans were for a mandate - but when Obama liked it - you sh*canned it. Republicans LOVE war - but when Obama likes it - you sound positively LIBERAL.
excon
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Jun 28, 2011, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Since he became President I see no evidence of a passion for anything except his golf game.
And if the cameras would follow him and his family to and from church every Sunday morning (with Obama waving merrily to and shaking hands with the other parishioners), then what would you say?
Bush attended church infrequently during his eight years as President and did not belong to a Washington congregation.
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Jun 28, 2011, 09:45 AM
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I can't speak to what Republicans have done . As for me :
I never supported cap and trade
I never supported a health care mandate .
You keep on trying to peg me with postions I don't take . Nice try.
I have been generally supportive of his executions of the war against jihadistan although I know his heart is not in it. I certainly have supported the expanded use of the drones .
My only critique of Libya was that he waited too long ;and then defied even the minimum criteria of his Constitutional requirement to get Congressional approval .
I think his strategergy in Afghanistan is muddled . Why surge if you are not going to let the troops do the job ? Why call Afghanistan the 'necessary war ' during the campaign and decide from the git-go to only demonstrate a show of force before retreat ?
I stand by what I said above . He has not taken the lead on ANY of his intitative either domestic or foreign . He treats his involvement in international affairs as an inconvenient burden ;and he has deferred his priority agendas to the likes of Pelosi and now Biden.
You know why the White House doesn't want him involved in the debt ceiling negotiations . They think he;d screw them up .But he'd better get involved soon. Biden's tax increases are a non-starter . There is no way they can force the House to give in on that .
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Jun 28, 2011, 09:46 AM
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Double post.
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Jun 28, 2011, 09:52 AM
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They don't because he doesn't . Bush attended church every Sunday and there was no such demonstration .
Not true.
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Jun 28, 2011, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
They don't because he doesn't . Bush attended church every Sunday and there was no such demonstration .
Not true.
Correct... for the record . I have never accused the President of being a Muslim AND.. I would have a worse opinion of him if he had attended Rev Wright's church and believed the garbage Rev Wright spoke. My opinion of his lack of religion gives him the benefit of the doubt.
Ex has this habit of making statements and attributing them as my opinion/belief. That was just one of many on his last response.
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Jun 28, 2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Surely not, libs are better than that. Right ex?
Hello tom:
Nahhh. The libs I know have disdain for all religions equally.
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Jun 28, 2011, 10:36 AM
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That's an odd article, usually Romney doesn't make it out of the gate because the GOP doesn't vet due to his mormonism.
Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The candidate's Mormon religion was also viewed with suspicion and skepticism by some in the Evangelical portion of the party;[132] polls indicated that about a quarter of Republican voters, and a quarter of voters overall, said they were less likely to vote for a candidate who was a Mormon.[133][134]
Also Pew Forum: How the Public Perceives Romney, Mormons
There are virtually no partisan differences in overall views of Mormons; slightly more than half of all Republicans (54%), Democrats (53%) and independents (55%) express favorable views.
There are larger differences, though, across religious groups. Solid majorities of white mainline Protestants (62%) and white non-Hispanic Catholics (59%) express favorable opinions of Mormons. But among white evangelical Protestants, just 46% have a positive impression of Mormons, while 39% have an unfavorable opinion.
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