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Apr 21, 2013, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
So throw away the cancer screenings, referrals, and check ups with the abortions. Nice strategy. I am sure females will appreciate you for it.
Depression is as common in woman who give birth as those who have had an abortion. And yes PP offers counseling for both scenarios.
We can find other avenues for cancer screenings and such, and I would trust PP for counseling as much as I'd trust them to protect the women of Philadelphia. They FAILED these womem, Tal and then had the audacity to claim that's why they're needed. Don't tap dance around that and the ludicrous claim that there's nothing on earth more important than their work.
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Apr 21, 2013, 08:07 AM
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PP is an abortion providers that maintains other services so as to pick tax payer's pockets. Their screening service is like the olive oil company was for The Godfather... an elaborate front. The heart of their operation remains true to it's founder ,Margaret Sanger's goals... population reduction... especially minority population reduction.
Let me ask this one question... how many women go to PP to delivery a baby to term ? Do they even do referrals for that purpose ? I bet they do referrals for abortion services.
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Apr 21, 2013, 08:22 AM
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Hello again:
If men had babies, you could get an abortion from the abortion truck, and have lunch while you're at it.
excon
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Apr 21, 2013, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
PP is an abortion providers that maintains other services so as to pick tax payer's pockets. Their screening service is like the olive oil company was for The Godfather...an elaborate front. The heart of their operation remains true to it's founder ,Margaret Sanger's goals .... population reduction ...especially minority population reduction.
Let me ask this one question...... how many women go to PP to delivery a baby to term ? Do they even do referrals for that purpose ? I bet they do referrals for abortion services.
Look it up and see for yourself and let us know. Its been posted before many times and ignored for the assumption that's all PP does is abortions. That's a convenient argument to condemn the other 97% of its services to women.
And they must be abject failures at stemming the population growths of minorities.
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Apr 21, 2013, 10:01 AM
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Look it up and see for yourself and let us know.
Planned Parenthood does indeed deliver babies…about 330,000 every year. The babies are delivered through a vacuum piece by piece, sucked into a jar, and thrown out as medical waste .
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Apr 21, 2013, 12:03 PM
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Apr 21, 2013, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again:
If men had babies, you could get an abortion from the abortion truck, and have lunch while you're at it.
excon
Apparently you don't want to have an honest conversation about this.
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Apr 28, 2013, 02:00 PM
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Now we have the butchers of the Bronx.
Abortion clinic employee caught on tape recommending killing infant - NYPOST.com
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In an undercover sting operation, a woman who was 23-plus weeks pregnant (abortion is illegal in New York and other states after 24 weeks) secretly recorded the conversations she had in this abortionist's office.
In an exchange laden with euphemisms on both sides to conceal the gruesome nature of the discussion, the pregnant woman wondered aloud what would happen if “it” (her fetus) emerged from her intact and alive.
The employee assigned to take note of medical history reassured the woman, “We never had that for ages” (a seeming admission that a baby did survive abortion at the clinic at least once) but that should “it” “survive this,” “They would still have to put it in like a jar, a container, with solution, and send it to the lab.. . We don't just throw it out in the garbage.”
Oh, and this innocuous-sounding “solution” was, of course, a toxic substance suitable for killing an infant.
“Like, what if it was twitching?” asked the pregnant woman.
“The solution will make it stop,” said the clinic employee. “That's the whole purpose of the solution.. . It will automatically stop. It won't be able to breathe anymore.”
As for any qualms a woman might have about seeing her newborn child being poisoned and drowned in a jar, the employee advised her “patient” not to worry: She'd be under sedation, and the murder would take place in another room anyway.
The employee said, humorously, that “the doctor” is “not going to wake you up and be like, 'Hey, excuse me, you have—' ”
The sentence was left unfinished, too unthinkable even for a euphemism. There's no polite way to say, “You have just given birth, but we will murder the child.”
In fact, when the pregnant woman brought up the idea that, if the abortion failed and resulted in a live birth, “I would have to take it home,” the employee said, “No. That is so illegal! Once was start this, we have to finish it.”
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Apr 29, 2013, 04:36 AM
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Illegal to save the baby so they just take it to another room and drown it in chemicals? Almost makes Gosnell snipping the baby's neck look humane.
So when is a baby worth saving?
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Apr 29, 2013, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Illegal to save the baby so they just take it to another room and drown it in chemicals? Almost makes Gosnell snipping the baby's neck look humane.
So when is a baby worth saving?
To some on the left... its when it turns 18 and is an adult before it has the right to life.
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Apr 29, 2013, 05:36 AM
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Save the mother, and she can save her own baby. The right has it a$$ backward as usual.
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Apr 29, 2013, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Save the mother, and she can save her own baby. The right has it a$$ backward as usual.
Hardly... if its capable of surviving outside the womb... its murder to kill it.
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Apr 29, 2013, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Save the mother, and she can save her own baby. The right has it a$$ backward as usual.
Talk about a$$ backward, when she's at the abortionist's office the mother is in their 'care.' A woman under sedation is kind of at their mercy, dude.
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Apr 29, 2013, 06:37 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
You appear to be LINKING this crime to legal abortion. That's like linking a bank withdrawal to a robbery..
excon
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Apr 29, 2013, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
You appear to be LINKING this crime to legal abortion. That's like linking a bank withdrawal to a robbery..
Excon
Not at all, I am trying to have an honest discussion but you aren't up for that. It's obvious that more children survive abortion than you're side admit. It's obvious that more abortionists are providing late term abortions than your side will admit, and it's more than obvious that your side doesn't believe these children deserve medical care. From the PP rep in Florida that could never think of a time a child should receive medical care, to Gosnell and the other abortionists mentioned in this thread that just whack 'em if they survive even six months into the pregnancy. These babies being killed are more developed than my niece, now 13, who weighed 1 lb 8 ounces when she was born.
And yet more abortionists willing to kill the baby are surfacing...
Arlington, VA: Live Action today released a second undercover video revealing how leading D.C. late-term abortion doctor Cesare Santengelo would leave a baby struggling for life after a failed abortion to die. The video is the second in a series of undercover videos, found at Inhuman: Undercover in America’s Late-Term Abortion Industry, involving a number of late-term abortion clinics engaging in illegal and inhuman practices, as well as explaining in graphic terms what happens to the victims of late-term abortion.
“Hopefully we’ll get this pregnancy out intact, but it doesn’t always happen that way,” Washington, D.C. abortion doctor Cesare Santangelo tells an undercover Live Action investigator who is 24 weeks pregnant. “I try and sever the umbilical cord first, and we wait for that to stop pulsing, and this way the fetus is expired first.”
When asked by the undercover investigator what would happen if the baby were to survive the abortion, Doctor Santangelo responds:
“Technically – you know, legally we would be obligated to help it, you know, to survive. But, you know, it probably wouldn’t. It’s all in how vigorously you do things to help a fetus survive at this point. Let’s say you went into labor, the membranes ruptured, and you delivered before we got to the termination part of the procedure here, you know? Then we would do things – we would – we would not help it. We wouldn’t intubate. It would be, you know, uh, a person, a terminal person in the hospital, let’s say, that had cancer, you know? You wouldn’t do any extra procedures to help that person survive. Like ‘do not resuscitate’ orders. We would do the same things here.”
At least this one gives you an excuse, it's like a DNR, except it isn't.
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Apr 29, 2013, 07:14 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
I am trying to have an honest discussion but you aren't up for that.
I'm NOT sure what discussion you're looking for. This bastard is a criminal and should be in jail. What's to discuss? What OTHER law abiding doctors do?? Who cares?
Excon
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Apr 29, 2013, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
I'm NOT sure what discussion you're looking for. This bastard is a criminal and should be in jail. What's to discuss? What OTHER law abiding doctors do??? Who cares?
excon
Who cares? Obviously not you, not the media, not Planned Parenthood, not the president, not most anyone that's supposedly looking out for women and children. When is it not OK to murder a baby, ex? Why is no one outraged at the information that's finally coming out? The abortion industry and their enablers have been lying to us for decades, why doesn't that pi$$ you off, don't you care about these women and their children?
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Apr 29, 2013, 07:38 AM
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The criminals are the liars, and the greedy. I know women who would be dead had they not found out they had cancer early enough to have a fighting chance at life through PP. I could be sympathetic to your abortion stance if you weren't so gung ho to stop good work that's needed by poor females in your zeal to stop abortions. Don't you care about treating cancer, or STD's?
But you make a good case for everyone having insurance. So stop trying to use this criminal to push that all abortions are done by evil people.
Oh wait, that's exactly what you are trying to do. Everybody is a lying criminal except people who defend conservative views.
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Apr 29, 2013, 07:40 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
The abortion industry and their enablers have been lying to us for decades
One criminal is NOT an abortion industry. But, CONTROLLING the uterus of EVERY women in this great country of ours, is ANYTHING but small government... It's HUGE, MONSTROUSLY LARGE government... It's akin to a POLICE STATE!
But, you're FINE with letting the banks have their way with us.
DUDE!
Excon
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Apr 29, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
The criminals are the liars, and the greedy. I know women who would be dead had they not found out they had cancer early enough to have a fighting chance at life through PP. I could be sympathetic to your abortion stance if you weren't so gung ho to stop good work that's needed by poor females in your zeal to stop abortions. Don't you care about treating cancer, or STD's?
I already answered that silly question. Abortions and health care don't have to go hand in hand. Whatever PP may do right does not redeem them from all the harm they cause.
But you make a good case for everyone having insurance. So stop trying to use this criminal to push that all abortions are done by evil people.
Oh wait, that's exactly what you are trying to do. Everybody is a lying criminal except people who defend conservative views.
All the deflection in the world won't change the focus of this post. When does a baby deserve medical care and why has the abortion industry AND their regulators been covering for these butchers?
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